Sunday, December 6, 2009

CLIMATEGATE

CLIMATEGATE...

Fri, 04 Dec 2009 11:16:55 -0600
R407033
2 days ago
canadian

bump


R407038
2 days ago
aganunitsi

The media is all about the emails, right now, when it comes to Climategate. But FOI2009.zip has a lot more than emails. Included is much of the data that skeptics have been trying to get at for years, including code used to analyze the data. That’s the whole joke behind the file name provided by the “hacker”. It contains data requested by skeptics under the Freedom of Information act (as well as many incriminating emails that show the stonewalling for what it was).

The emails are mostly drama. I’m waiting for analysis of the data files to show us something new. So far, all I’ve seen is this, where Steve McIntyre shows that the decline (in tree ring-width correllation to temperature) that was known to be hidden years ago was actually worse than he previously thought. Thanks to FOI2009.zip, the data is now available.


R407041
2 days ago
SunTzu

including code used to analyze the data.

you still haven’t read ‘Harry_read_me’, have you?? hahahahahah


R407042
2 days ago
SunTzu

But your point about the data is not totally correct. the data is not the totality of what has been requested.

jones appears to have deliberately destroyed data.

For example the raw-data used to construct the historic temp record appears to have been deliberately destroyed – Jones claims it was a necessity due to storage/space issues, but conveniently for him it also hides exactly what he did to massage the figures he was using to claim a massive rise in temperature which he claimed was a threat to us all.

This is the REAL scandal. Public policy has been altered on the basis of the findings Jones was ‘producing’ – and he was messing with the raw-data and then refusing to allow people to examine what he did to it, unless they were already true-believers in his Global Warming religion


R407043
2 days ago
SunTzu

And chicken fucker climatards like Sissy, Snark, Tango Livingston (to name but a few) were running around viciously attacking sceptics and chanting their ‘the Science is settled’ mantra


R407044
2 days ago
aganunitsi

OK Sunny. What study/graph, exactly, was the code cited in Harry_read_me.txt used to publish? And based on the contents of Harry_read_me.txt, what errors/ommissions should one look for in said study/graph?

And yes, I’ve skimmed it (been skimming FOI2009.zip since November 19). It doesn’t help me much. How does it help you – are you a database programmer?


R407045
2 days ago
Truthcansuk

Sunny-T – For example the raw-data used to construct the historic temp record appears to have been deliberately destroyed…

I got a chuckle when i heard that all they had left was something called ‘Value-Added Data.’

On Edit: That wasn’t a joke.

Post Modified: 12/04/09 13:35:51

R407049
2 days ago
SunTzu

That wasn’t a joke.

I know! that what makes it so funny


R407050
2 days ago
SunTzu

And Ag, thinking he’s in a Court of Law and if I can’t actually provide a smoking gun with jones’ fingerprints on it that somehow means that Jones couldn’t be guilty, is even funnier


R407053
2 days ago
aganunitsi

And you, thinking you can claim what I’m thinking when you can’t cite anything close to me asking for a smoking gun to prosecute Phil Jones, who I haven’t remotely mentioned in even the most sideways of manners.

I was talking about you, Sunny. You spam “haaaaaahahahaahah you didn’t read what you should have read” through the threads, but you can’t even tell us why we should read it? Have you skimmed that file – it’s fucking huge! I’ve learned to not waste my time on your bullshit, but I asked out of courtesy and the remote chance that you might have something besides a polished turd this time around.


R407064
2 days ago
SunTzu

Yeah, that’s it ag.

heeheeeheeeheee – you da maaan!

You looked at the file and thought ‘My head hurts’ – you still haven’t any comprehension of the smoking gun which lies therein. It’s fun to watch you pretend that you know what you’re talking about.

It matters not what graphs were produced using that code. What matters is that it is evidence of the type of totally unethical reprehensible unscientific activities the Jones-ites were performing on the raw-data and the completely cavalier attitude they had as to the accuracy of the data.

An idiot like you will of course claim that unless I can pin-point precisely what that code was used for, then the coders comments in the file are evidence of nothing.

But that’s exactly what one would expect an idiot to say

Post Modified: 12/04/09 15:18:47

R407069
2 days ago
aganunitsi

You looked the file and thought ‘My head hurts’ – you still haven’t any comprehension of the smoking gun which lies therein.

Still trying to tell me what my thoughts are?

I have no idea what the smoking gun is in that file, and apparently neither do you – after your bout of verbal diarrhea you still haven’t given us anything. What I took away from that file is that they haven’t come up with an XML schema for climate data, which is ridiculous considering the importance and breadth of the subject. And someone at that University really sucked at filing.


R407070
2 days ago
SunTzu

I have no idea what the smoking gun is in that file,

that much was obvious

and apparently neither do you

I just told ya in my last post – but you’d still have to read the file to understand what i’m talking about. Which of course you won’t do because of the headache that reading it and trying to understand what’s going on, would induce

Still trying to tell me what my thoughts are?

dude – it’s called ‘deduction’ – you should try it sometime. Your own comments on the matter of the file gave me more than enough info to work that out all by myself. It ain’t majik or rocket science, merely deductive reasoning, something you appear incapable of understanding

Post Modified: 12/04/09 15:59:48

R407071
2 days ago
SunTzu

What I took away from that file is that they haven’t come up with an XML schema for climate data,

lol, wut? heeheeheee – you just wanted to throw in some data-manipulation-type statement, such as ‘XML schema for climate data’ to make it sound like you might know what you are talking about, didntcha? hahahahaha

the file shows waaaay more than that. But you’d have to
a) read it
&
b) understand it

before you’d know what it shows.

But don’t worry – cos I already told ya what’s in there, you can chose to accept it or not, it’s up to you.

Post Modified: 12/04/09 16:02:24

R407072
2 days ago
aganunitsi

I just told ya in my last post – but you’d still have to read the file to understand what i’m talking about….cos I already told ya what’s in there, you can chose to accept it or not, it’s up to you

Now you’re trying to steal moves from Joseph McCarthy. So you have the list in your hand, right there, do ya?

Like I said, there’s no way I’m falling for your bullshit again, Lucy.


R407073
2 days ago
canadian

now get along boys… we don’t need another source of heat now do we..lol


R407074
2 days ago
SunTzu

hahahahah – omg – reduced to slurring people as ‘McCarthy-ite’ in order to defend yourself – poor Ag.

That you have to stoop sooooooo low, speaks volumes. One can deduce a lot from that, provided one were able to use deductive reasoning in the first place, of course ;-)

If you don’t intend to read the file, just say so, Ag.

This ‘McCarthy-ite’-slurring, in an attempt to distract attention from your refusal to read the file, is totally unnecessary, and not at all successful because I already know you haven’t read it and so far you do not appear to have any intention of reading it – and all of that is confirmed by the type of language you have chosen to use – your own words, Ag.

You leak info like . . . . Like a very leaky thingy ;-)

Post Modified: 12/04/09 17:19:42

R407075
2 days ago
SunTzu

The file is public, Ag. anyone can read it – even you – you have already admitted that you have a copy of it – no one is preventing you from reading it yourself.

The FACT that you chose to describe my ridiculing of you for refusing to read a publically available file, as being akin to the tactics employed by Joe McCarthy, is downright fuckin HILARIOUS, ag.

oh the LULZ!!!

You’re an endless source of entertainment. so much so that I’m beginning to wonder if you’re not some sceptic in disguise, conjuring up a wonderful satire, in order to portray AGW-tards as complete and utter morons.

Thanks

heeheeheeheee

Post Modified: 12/04/09 17:14:38

R407102
2 days ago
mtnlungta

the models are just made up shit
by ordinary guys making mistakes
garbage in garbage out as they say
the climate will change
has anyone ever factored in chem-trails?
aluminum and barium do make shadows
and shadows are cooler than direct sun

not that it matters
it looks like a staged wrestling match …media driven ….again
the diversion of the day


R407105
2 days ago
SunTzu

What should we be focusing on then, MT?

do please tell us . ..


R407107
2 days ago
SunTzu

not that it matters. it looks like a staged wrestling match

you’re probably right.

Afghanistan –
apparently . . .
the newest way
to extricate,
is in fact
to escalate . . .

Post Modified: 12/05/09 00:47:22

R407188
10 hours ago
grady


R407203
8 hours ago
bacchus


R407216
5 hours ago
bacchus

great post grady

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