Monday, November 16, 2009

it all...

R399559
2 months ago
silverback

hey guys. yes it was i who posted the vid and the article. if you can believe it i forgot my password and just haven’t even bothered to be on the site for a long long time. call it burn out or whatever. to be honest, we’re debating what to do with it at this point. i think there are like 10 of you keeping it going. which is great, but given the potential for some fuck up in the forum (like a death threat or something) it’s just not worth the liability for us anymore. the site has gone so far from what it was when we started, when there was a really tight knit community and we have lots of traffic for the vids. i think times have changed. in more ways than one.

so i think we’re going to either wind it down or just create something new altogether. the latter being the more remote of possibilities. what do you think?


R399560
2 months ago
ZoeBlunt

Shit.


R399561
2 months ago
Foo

Thx to let us know!
In the mean time deadduck and me already started blogging on our own page.
Anyway, guess you’ll update us later on?
Ciao ciao


R399567
2 months ago
SaryshaganTiger

out with a whimper


R399588
2 months ago
tingbudong

Hey Stephen,

Before you finally pull the plug, I suggest you conduct a “the story of GNN” contest in the article yard, or would that upset the overlords. GNN came close to providing a process for disseminating important truths. Is that what did her in?

The legal issues you refer to are completely ridiculous. “Oh we must censor news about corrupt administrations because memnoch told someone to suck his dick”.
We know we’ll never get the truth from you and Anthony. Why not let some dedicated guerrillas tell their tales and leave some narrative behind that honors the passion and hard work that this site inspired? Or you could just flush it all like a bowl of shit! Anyway, anybody that believes that you are providing a truthful explanation of why this site is closing down is a COMPLETE IDIOT.

Zai Jian


R399590
2 months ago
Memnoch07

Man… I just added Stephen to facebook. I bet that was the straw that broke the camel. (He saw that all the cool users were on facebook, so figured there was no point keeping this site?)

Fuck, I’m sorry y’all.

PS Suck my dick too.

Post Modified: 09/24/09 09:46:22

R399598
2 months ago
Trainspotter

Stephen,

Why don’t you consider passing it off to someone willing to support it? 10 users? Not hundreds of regular contributors to be sure but 10 is a gross underestimate.

Left alone with no support it has continued; you guys were practically gone when I arrived and I think this site, while it could be improved, is still a fabulous format, and a rare one at that. Who’s to say what it could evolve to with some fresh paint and regular attention. Get articles flowing again, take advice from the user base that has discussed this numerous times in past threads and have tons of ideas. Don’t underestimate the volume of lurkers – some blogs maintained here have countless regular readers.

Liability? How so? If you’re to be liable for what floopy says then you’re already in as far as you can go. Death threats? A couple of ridiculous threads late at night with too much alcohol and persons throwing excreta at Shifty (many seem to enjoy it so – Shifty generally takes it in stride.)? Let’s not exaggerate the situation.

If you guys want to go then you’re going to go – don’t make excuses. But please consider other alternatives and keep in mind the phrase, “Finish what you’ve started”.

And remember, it’s not just a website; it isn’t a static display for virtual information – it is a common space, a park, a meeting place, a jam room, sometimes it’s a bar. I like this bar. Change the wallpaper already, clean the tables, polish the brass and for crying out loud update the menu once in awhile. I think you’ll see some fresh faces coming by to check things out.

Peace.


R399601
2 months ago
Forbes

given the potential for some fuck up in the forum (like a death threat or something) it’s just not worth the liability for us anymore.

Liability? How so? If you’re to be liable for what floopy says then you’re already in as far as you can go. Death threats? A couple of ridiculous threads late at night with too much alcohol and persons throwing excreta

I think that was Anthony’s paranoia talking, Train…

It’s been fun.

/starts a slow trot towards the chemical sheds…


R399603
2 months ago
charlie

shut down gnn? lol

that’d be real weak.


R399604
2 months ago
charlie

REAL WEAK


R399605
2 months ago
charlie

....I’m blaming it on Obama.


R399606
2 months ago
SunTzu

The legal issues you refer to are completely ridiculous. “Oh we must censor news about corrupt administrations because memnoch told someone to suck his dick”.

That must be the ‘death threat’ he referred to earlier.

Just how dangerous IS Memnoch’s dick??!!!

Here’s an idea;

Zip/archive the site, code, comments, blogs articles and all, the whole shebang, and let someone, anyone (but Shifty) download it and host it elsewhere. Delete all user-identifiable info if you want (email addys, etc). torrent it, whatever’s easiest

Do a deal on the name transfer, or if not then the new ‘owner’ can rename it, and then wipe your hands and forget it. There’s way too much good info and ideas from top-class (Szamko to name but one) surfers/bloggers/reporters embedded in this site to just throw away.

Shit, I’ll even offer to host it if no one else will, pay the bills etc, just to have access to all the info and links posted here over the last few years.*

Post Modified: 09/24/09 10:53:31

R399608
2 months ago
SunTzu

Unlike Shifty I vow to never censor anyones speech or ideas under the guise of protecting users from ‘oppresion’.


R399609
2 months ago
xenonix

the site has gone so far from what it was

i do believe that has been the problem with gnn 2.0 from the start. :(

now, the obvious being said, i have to come clean….i had thoughts of stephen & anthony in the shower this morning. yes. i admit it. but…it was in a completely platonic way.

was wondering when this would fall apart..i know i have been only dropping in on rare occasion..and when i do, i’ve been completely turned off by how far the forum has fallen into the grasps of tinfoil hatted nutters and discouraged old-school posters, (the ones that were left)

and, i admit to being part of the problem by not sticking around to prick the pricks as some deserve to be pricked relentlessly….but i just couldn’t afford the prices in the gnn store ;)

there was a time, in a gnn long, long ago, where there was actual discussion and exchange of ideas/viewpoints, etc occuring between members in a mostfully respectful way. the big question now is…...do these jeans make my ass look fat?

no…really…can that joy of exchange between the disparate be resurrected where meaningful dialog becomes the norm rather than the exception? or, should we all say fuck it and go consume mass quantities of kool-aid as ennui sets in to eat the soul


R399610
2 months ago
SunTzu

Some of the worst abusers were in fact ‘old’ v1.0 users, xen.


R399611
2 months ago
Memnoch07

Microdot is gonna be pissed.

Iagree with everone here. I dont want to lose this website, fuck I’ve been reading it for about 5 fricken years. Thats a long time.


R399612
2 months ago
Memnoch07

My penis is pretty big, but I wouldnt call it “dangerous”.


R399614
2 months ago
Trainspotter

I hadn’t considered the archival point that Sun made so I second it now. As a more recent attendee to this bar I’ve had to go down into the basement to see what the “good old GNN” that was so often discussed was actually all about. Talk about your treasure trove. I have a running list of “To Do” or “To Research” with regards to the past blogs and headlines. It should definitely be preserved – but of course preserving the active nature of the site is still my first preference.


R399615
2 months ago
charlie

I think someone other then SunTzu or Shift should host this site. Definitely not shift though. He’s super annoying. So Sun if no one else could…

Post Modified: 09/24/09 11:10:26

R399622
2 months ago
SunTzu

I’d even offer to host it, and let little Miss South Carolina there be admin

OR: I’ll host it, Shifty can do day to day admin if he wants, and any disputes that arise (e.g: Shifty trying to censor anyone he disagrees with ;) would have to be resolved by we two extremists.


R399623
2 months ago
SunTzu

My penis is pretty big, but I wouldnt call it “dangerous”.

yeah YOU wouldn’t, but obviously it scares the crap outta Stevie


R399625
2 months ago
remarcus

this revolution will go straight to DVD. you can find it in the store


R399630
2 months ago
FloydAnderson

if you can believe it i forgot my password

hmmm….yeah right

So Stephen, would you & Anthony rather delete all that has been contributed here instead of passing it on to someone else who can host this place and keep it going?


R399636
2 months ago
jholon

Hi Silverback. Perhaps you could sell out to yahoo? Seriously though, you have an awesome site. And I do my best to stir contraversy. I try to represent what people here hate so they’ll keep bringing their stuff.


R399646
2 months ago
SunTzu

jholon could be day to day admin for all i care.


R399647
2 months ago
silverback

well, i didn’t realize you were all still here! of course any work would be archived and wouldn’t be deleted. conspiracy theories aside, the issue is that we are liable for what goes on here and if someone did release someone’s personal info… or pick the scenario, we are responsible. and as much as people like to make fun of anthony, he was kind of left to deal with regulating this place (in a non-regulated environment), which just got to be extremely thankless and kind of silly after a while. that’s what i meant when i said it had changed.

there is such a culture of distrust here. i mean why the fuck would i lie about my password? do you think i give enough of a shit to lie? it’s more a symbol of how my own interest in what is going on here has flagged than anything else. i’m sorry, but what we started did not have this caustic, i hate the man attitude. it’s just so juvenile. and when you create something that becomes so much the envelope of all the shit you hate in society, you do have a right to kill it. but it’s more than that.

the other issue is one of journalistic legacy. anthony and i are both working writers and journalists. everyone knows us as the creators of GNN and if the site is going to stay up, then there needs to be a careful, selective process at work. if we just leave the site to a few people, who may or may not go the distance, it could just dissolve into a really poor reflection on the original concept. and that reflects on us. or it could blossom into something amazing.

but given how low the traffic is now and how few contributors there are – and i say this not to deride you! – why don’t you guys just start a new site? it’s not that hard… and considering how much of a clusterfuck this is – and how much you hate it – why not do that? people have been threatening to do it for ages and yet not one of them has been able to get a site up and running? seriously.

but look, some of you guys are long long time users. some of you are people i know to be highly sentient and passionate activists. if you really feel this platform can have some value for you and your work, we can discuss it. for me, my activism has just outgrown this community. not the people. not the individuals i came to love as the real GNN core, but the constant in-fighting and lack of basic integrity that has really come to infect the entire US political dialogue.

i know a lot of you have just learned to put up with it. but the majority… the vast majority of our one-time audience, have fled. you’re basically talking to yourselves. and that might be good enough. hell, it was good enuf for us when we started the site and had 2000 people on it. but as its founders and people who are on the hook to foundations (yes, the CIA!), and for our reputations as journalists, i don’t know if it’s worth the trouble of continuing to maintain it when, as i said, this core group is smart enough and capable enough and motivated enough to start something new. doesn’t that excite you guys? i know it does me…

anyways let’s discuss.


R399652
2 months ago
Trainspotter

Hard to estimate timeframes because there are no dates associated with user accounts that I’m aware of…. scrolling through “Users” going back to one I recognise…. I estimate we have 5-6 pages of new users since July(ish). Accounting for iphone hack and cell phone sales that’s likely 4-5 pages of new users or 80-100 users in the last few months.

GNN dead? I hardly think so.

try to represent what people here hate so they’ll keep bringing their stuff.

Don’t flatter yourself jho, it’s unbecoming. The “stuff” will roll in with or without you. If you’re looking for purpose in life then go get yourself that dog.


R399653
2 months ago
SunTzu

“we can discuss it”

no comment on my idea/offer?

how is that “discussing it”?

My idea gets you guys off the hook entirely and is a pretty good solution to your professional/personal concerns regarding image/liability. (IMO)

Anthony wouldn’t have to ‘regulate’, neither of you would any longer be liable for anything done here etc.

Post Modified: 09/24/09 12:35:30

R399654
2 months ago
silverback

Accounting for iphone hack and cell phone sales that’s likely 4-5 pages of new users or 80-100 users in the last few months.

ok, let’s drop this point. i am going by traffic. and that’s not even the main issue. it’s about how to allow this community, however many there are, to continue doing what they are doing on a different platform.


R399656
2 months ago
SunTzu

bump for to get steven to notice my commnt


R399657
2 months ago
silverback

Anthony wouldn’t have to ‘regulate’, neither of you would any longer be liable for anything done here etc.

no, but GNN is a company (albeit a non-profitable one) that is owned by four people who have been at this for 8 years. i don’t know if they’re all going to just want to cede that to an unknown future. and Sun, i don’t know you, but just saying “i’ll host it,” isn’t enough.

are you all absolutely wedded to the GNN brand? could you conceivably work with this platform but with a new name?


R399658
2 months ago
Memnoch07

“of course any work would be archived and wouldn’t be deleted. conspiracy theories aside,”

You didnt do that for version 1.

How much does this website cost??


R399659
2 months ago
Memnoch07

“are you all absolutely wedded to the GNN brand?”

Kinda sorta.

Honestly, if you dont care that much, just hand it over to someone.

“i don’t know if they’re all going to just want to cede that to an unknown future.”

So you would rather just junk the whole thing?

And personally, I dont really believe that you will archive everything and make it available, or at least I dont believe you will do that before the end of the next decade.


R399660
2 months ago
SunTzu

are you all absolutely wedded to the GNN brand?

I not sure what ‘wedded to the GNN brand’ means. You’d have to clarify your meaning before I’d even attempt to answer.

could you conceivably work with this platform but with a new name?

again you’d have to fully clarify your meaning, but if you mean what I think you mean, then I don’t forsee any major probs. I got time, can code well enough to re-jig the site if needed, (provided Jessie didn’t make complete dogs-dinner when he designed/coded the site originally)


R399662
2 months ago
FloydAnderson

the other issue is one of journalistic legacy. anthony and i are both working writers and journalists. everyone knows us as the creators of GNN and if the site is going to stay up, then there needs to be a careful, selective process at work. if we just leave the site to a few people, who may or may not go the distance, it could just dissolve into a really poor reflection on the original concept. and that reflects on us.

It could just be made knwon that GNN is in new hands. Easy.


R399665
2 months ago
silverback

You didnt do that for version 1.

that server died. the whole reason we started building 2.0 was b/c the server was fucked and then we decided to just upgrade and then we lost the server. that is what happened.

Honestly, if you dont care that much, just hand it over to someone.

it’s not that simple. as i said, this is on our CVs, it’s widely known that we created it. i doubt the group will go for just handing off the name. anyway, it’s been widely discredited as a CIA front.

It could just be made knwon that GNN is in new hands. Easy.

not really.

anyways, from this brief interaction i get the sense that it might be a fair trade to see if i can get the partners to release the platform and code and then you guys just start a new site. i have no idea if they’ll go for it. jessey a brilliant programmer. the problem is the code is very difficult to understand for most coders. we brought several people in to work over the years and all were basically stymied by the way he codes. so that will also be an issue going forward.

i’ll talk to the others and see if they’re even remotely interested.


R399666
2 months ago
SunTzu

It’s seems you’re intent on scrapping it all so it seems to me you are thinking of abandoning the whole GNN brand, is that right?

Anyways if you’re willing to part with the name I’m happy to display a very prominent disclaimer to the effect that none of you are connected to the brand any longer.

If not I’m able and willing to re-jig the code so the GNN name is no longer associated

any other ideas/conditions/provisos you may have I’m open to listening to. Lets discuss, as you said earlier :)


R399667
2 months ago
SunTzu

anyway, it’s been widely discredited as a CIA front.

well you see MY IDEA also solves that problem, what with me not having any connections to the CIA that I know of.

See how perfect my idea is, Steven?? ;)


R399668
2 months ago
SunTzu

jessey a brilliant programmer.

the problem is the code is very difficult to understand for most coders. we brought several people in to work over the years and all were basically stymied by the way he codes.

those appear to be a contradictary statements

Post Modified: 09/24/09 13:13:16

R399669
2 months ago
Memnoch07

“anyway, it’s been widely discredited as a CIA front. “

Haha, so what could we do that could be worse than that? I dont think as soon as you cede control GNN is going to turn in to a drugs/weapons/pedophile trade association that advertises on google or anything. But I suppose anything is possible.


R399672
2 months ago
FloydAnderson

I say scrap the GNN brand and the GNN store but keep all the user content.


R399673
2 months ago
Memnoch07

“i’ll talk to the others and see if they’re even remotely interested.”

Are you even remotely interested Stephen?


R399674
2 months ago
Memnoch07

Yeah scrap the name, its not that important. Its not that difficult for me to change the bookmark on my browser.


R399675
2 months ago
Truthcansuk

Silver – but as its founders and people who are on the hook to foundations (yes, the CIA!), and for our reputations as journalists, i don’t know if it’s worth the trouble of continuing to maintain it…

No, it’s really not.

While I appreciate a place to play and have met some really good people here, I’ve wondered for quite a while whether you or Anthony wouldn’t be embarrassed to send someone you knew to the GNN forums…


R399678
2 months ago
xenonix

yea, tcs…i know i am…as it stands now

Post Modified: 09/24/09 13:07:59

R399680
2 months ago
Memnoch07

“While I appreciate a place to play and have met some really good people here, I’ve wondered for quite a while whether you or Anthony wouldn’t be embarrassed to send someone you knew to the GNN forums…”

What??? Please TCS, there isnt much on here that is more shocking than watching prime time tv. My fucking mother reads this website. And she works in the government, as a manager no less.

Not everyone gives a shit about being accepted by the “mainstream”. Whoever they are anyway.


R399681
2 months ago
silverback

i am remotely interested, yes Mem. why do you think i am taking the time today to do this?

tcs – it’s happened more than once. we’ve been embarrassed with funders, friends, other journalists who heard great things and then poked under the hood. it’s been brutal. and all in the name of free speech. anyways… thanks for seeing it through our eyes.


R399682
2 months ago
Memnoch07

“yea, tcs…i know i am…as it stands now”

Well why dont you FUCK OFF then eh?


R399683
2 months ago
Memnoch07

“yes Mem. why do you think i am taking the time today to do this?”

I think you are nice guy, honestly I do. But you are not being totally honest with us. I think you should stop this conversation right now. Talk to whoever you have to talk to, then come back. Otherwise it is pointless and just making me angry. Before I was banned and all my blogs deleted, I did actually contribute to this website.


R399684
2 months ago
silverback

Mem, jesus, mainstream? i hope you haven’t become so conditioned to the state of this place that you read the writing in there and see it as high quality dissident rhetoric. i mean we’re not friends with mainstream people. you’ve seen our films and videos. i’m talking hardcore lefties and real actual activists, lifelong, who think this place is a potty-mouthed, conspiratorial time sink.


R399685
2 months ago
silverback

But you are not being totally honest with us.

ok, you have me. what the fuck could possibly be the real agenda here? seriously.

I think you should stop this conversation right now.

indeed. i don’t know how you guys do it, but i just get so sucked into this place!


R399686
2 months ago
Memnoch07

Well, maybe thats why I voluntarily dont make friends with people in real life, aside from my girlfriend. She’s good.


R399688
2 months ago
Memnoch07

“ok, you have me. what the fuck could possibly be the real agenda here? seriously.”

The real agenda is that you, and whoever else has control over this website has already decided to close it down, and you, because you are polite, are paying lip-service to some fantasy where one of us takes over control.


R399689
2 months ago
Truthcansuk

Memn – What??? Please TCS, there isnt much on here that is more shocking than watching prime time tv.

Yeah, but I watch prime time tv for a reason: mindless fun. If that’s what GNN was set up for, great. I think they had other plans for it though.

My fucking mother reads this website.

Your mother sounds hot.

Not everyone gives a shit about being accepted by the “mainstream”. Whoever they are anyway.

Yes. That’s exactly what I meant, Memn. Not that this place is a hotbed of “Fag. No, you are. No, you are infinity!”


R399690
2 months ago
SunTzu

it’s happened more than once. we’ve been embarrassed with funders, friends, other journalists who heard great things and then poked under the hood. it’s been brutal. and all in the name of free speech. anyways… thanks for seeing it through our eyes.

once again my idea solves ALL your problems, Steven.


R399691
2 months ago
Memnoch07

es. That’s exactly what I meant, Memn. Not that this place is a hotbed of “Fag. No, you are. No, you are infinity!”

So why do you come here?? Honestly?

Tell me you wont miss it.


R399692
2 months ago
SunTzu

_Not that this place is a hotbed of “Fag. No, you are. No, you are infinity!” _

well if it is TCS you have contributed more than your fair share to that


R399693
2 months ago
Truthcansuk

Silver – it’s happened more than once. we’ve been embarrassed with funders, friends, other journalists who heard great things and then poked under the hood. it’s been brutal. and all in the name of free speech.

Have you considered junking the forums and keeping the articles and the main page? Some people are willing to put quite a bit of work into the articles. And the headline system seems to work, does it not?


R399694
2 months ago
silverback

actually, we decided a long time ago to close it down, but just couldn’t bring ourselves to do it. and now we have, so i came on to see how best to help make the transition and if people actually wanted to do that. and they do, so i am dealing. so chill out and stop with the conspiratorial shit. i understand where you are coming from. believe me, i have way more pressing shit right now. i want to do what’s right. even for people who have been extremely abusive. think about the shit we have taken from elements of this community. you close out the world and stick with your girlfriend? hey man, we felt like that a long long time ago.


R399695
2 months ago
Memnoch07

I come here to be with other honest misanthropes. I havent been able to find that in any other web forum sadly.


R399696
2 months ago
Truthcansuk

Memn – So why do you come here?? Honestly?

My peeps. Is that still a word?

Sun – well if it is TCS you have contributed more than your fair share to that.

Note: I wasn’t complaining about that fact. It’s not like I’m here offering quality journalism. I got nothing but time to kill and a great ass-groove on my gnn lazy-boy.


R399697
2 months ago
silverback

tcs. absolutely. the articles are tricky tho. good ones do come thru, but they’re hard work. we have an idea that could help that as well. but yes, we’ve thought about that a lot. the problem is that they comment function is linked to all the other media uploads. so we’d have to do a pretty thoro rejigging.


R399698
2 months ago
silverback

and for those who are interested in a story of really brave and transformational activism:

http://vimeo.com/6519499


R399700
2 months ago
Memnoch07

“actually, we decided a long time ago to close it down, but just couldn’t bring ourselves to do it. and now we have, so i came on to see how best to help make the transition and if people actually wanted to do that. and they do, so i am dealing. so chill out and stop with the conspiratorial shit. i understand where you are coming from. believe me, i have way more pressing shit right now. i want to do what’s right. even for people who have been extremely abusive. think about the shit we have taken from elements of this community. you close out the world and stick with your girlfriend? hey man, we felt like that a long long time ago.”

Alright, I’ll chill… sorry, I just really like this forum. And you Stephen, even though I just noticed you de-friended me on facebook. (or maybe you deactivated your account?)

Post Modified: 09/24/09 13:30:40

R399701
2 months ago
SunTzu

at the very least zip/archive it and send me the whole lot, and I’ll strip out the GNN brand stuff and stick it back up online, maybe as a static archive, a dead momument to the mayhem meanness and madness that was teh GNN forums.

Doesn’t need to be an active site but there’s waaaaaaay too much good info and commentary that’s been posted here over the years, some real gems hidden amongst all the shit, that really shouldn’t just be consigned to the scrap-heap. Every couple of days at a minimum there is something I usually have to search for here and post elsewhere. That’s why i’m still here.

Well, that and the misanthropy

Post Modified: 09/24/09 13:33:36

R399702
2 months ago
xenonix

Well why dont you FUCK OFF then eh?

i do…all the time…don’t we all


R399704
2 months ago
jholon

Has ShiftShaker been notified?


R399706
2 months ago
silverback

Sun, that sounds great. just let me deal with it on my side. thank you all again.


R399710
2 months ago
W089MuttaFickas

SELL IT. The URL is very good.

So thats real sad. a lot of trolls are gonna need to look for new stomping grounds if they wanna keep them government checks coming….

How much you want;-)?

peace


R399715
2 months ago
Trainspotter

:( :( :( :(


R399720
2 months ago
sisyphus

someone get to work on the “goodnight, sweet prince” gnn demotivator asap!!!


R399722
2 months ago
sisyphus

this:


R399730
2 months ago
aganunitsi

I’ll miss it, learned a lot here.

Everything dies – savor the catharsis and move on.


R399737
2 months ago
ShiftShapers

Has ShiftShaker been notified?

yes.

let someone, anyone (but Shifty) download it and host it elsewhere.

aww… i love you too, lil’ fella!

Definitely not shift though. He’s super annoying.

hell, i even annoy the fuck out of myself sometimes.

i’ll miss gnn a lot if it goes down, and all of you too.


R399741
2 months ago
redoubt

This site is dropping at freefall speed!


R399744
2 months ago
FloydAnderson

If GNN can be moved to a new url and re-named, what could the name be? Any ideas?


R399746
2 months ago
ShiftShapers

Gorrilla Troll Network


R399747
2 months ago
FloydAnderson

R399748
2 months ago
FloydAnderson

Guerrilla Media Network aka GMN


R399750
2 months ago
ShiftShapers

not bad either


R399751
2 months ago
SunTzu

Gorrilla Troll Network!!

perfect


R399754
2 months ago
SunTzu

Agent Provacateur Network

APN?

What ya think, Shifty/ :)


R399755
2 months ago
SunTzu

NGNN

NOT GNN


R399756
2 months ago
SunTzu

DNN
Dead NewsNetwork


R399757
2 months ago
SunTzu

ZNN

Zombie News Network


R399759
2 months ago
aganunitsi

MSGNN


R399763
2 months ago
SunTzu

sounds like a Microsoft proxy.

Bill would have a shit-fit

MSG-NN might work


R399765
2 months ago
FloydAnderson

R399772
2 months ago
silverback

that is fucking funny.


R399782
2 months ago
Tom_Friedman

I won!

Not worth the price eh?

Please do let me get the ‘as is’ code to run this format! That would be great!

Everyone can post viable posts to the east coast ledger by contacting the editor. Tell em john nyc ivil sent ya!

I could easily set up a shell holding it in an advantageous overseas server if you really do not think freedom of speech is worth standing behind in America?

LOLZ got y’all. Thin skin is a sign of being coddled in a counter revolutionary culture. The beautiful people talking nothings, treading blood.

As a revolutionary said, “While there is a lower class, I am in it. While there is a criminal element, I am of it. While there is a soul in prison, I am not free.” Make his biopic, now, media mediators

Go with God

Make mercury brigade triads everywhere.

immediatism – bey


R399783
2 months ago
FloydAnderson

click to enlarge


R399784
2 months ago
FloydAnderson

I like NGNN

www.NGNN.tv

Maybe it could be something other than Not the Guerrilla News Network

N__________ Guerrilla News Network?

or

N__________ G__________ News Network


R399815
2 months ago
Truthcansuk

I Can’t Believe It’s Not GNN? (Ic Bin GNN?)


R399827
2 months ago
ShiftShapers


R399833
2 months ago
aganunitsi

That image vexes me. They aren’t holding the gun to shoot it. No one has a hand on the trigger. Is that a subliminable handjob? Remember ladies, guns like it more if you rub the ammo clip.


R399844
2 months ago
ShiftShapers

the original image i pirated from the paul f. maul artists’ group:


R399858
2 months ago
FloydAnderson

Neo-Guerrilla News Network

lol,


R399865
2 months ago
ShiftShapers

when you have a more precise time-frame, stephen, or a date when the site will go off-line, please do let us knwo.


R399866
2 months ago
mancer

I want my G N N

I am feeling disappointed that GNN maybe no more.

There is no other site like it that I refer to.

Sure, most times there is unrelated stuff for me, but from time to time there are some gems.

The loss of the virtual friends, enemies and colleaques of GNN is, in a way sad. For all the material and archives to be lost – it’s like a book burning, or memory hole

This thread brought me here …

Former Bush Team Member Says WTC Collapse Likely A Controlled Demolition

And I think my first post was you may not have seen a UFO because of stealth

Here’s my Last Post Red Dawn in Australia

Post Modified: 09/25/09 03:42:37

R399867
2 months ago
mancer

and this was the most fun i’ve had in a rock’n‘roll wake thread, EVER!

GNN is finally dead?

:)


R399868
2 months ago
notnada

http://gnn.tv/blogs/18801/censorship

I can be “disappeared” from my blog at any point in time

just a mandala, told you so motherfuckers, good luck with the cognitive dissonance


R399869
2 months ago
Szamko

i think we’re going to either wind it down or just create something new altogether. the latter being the more remote of possibilities. what do you think?

I honestly think that the web still has a niche for what GNN does, or set out to do. There still isn’t anything quite like it, although there will be, for sure. If you redesign and relaunch, there is a huge reservoir of people with open minds ready to populate the new site, but it would have to be done slightly differently to the current model.

I personally wouldn’t be unhappy with more moderation/censorship of offensive posts, but with a more democratic set up for posting articles.

E-mail me if you do decide to relaunch, but whatever you do, good luck!


R399876
2 months ago
amraken

I hope this site doesn’t shut down. I like that anyone can submit headlines, and that they have to be approved by the users. I don’t know of another site like GNN in this regard. Whether it shuts down or not, thank you silverback and the other owners as well as all those who have kindly given to make it happen and all the people that took the time to sumbit news, articles, blogs, comments etc.

Poor shiftshaper, I don’t have a problem with you – you seem a bit grumpy sometimes, but that’s hardly a major floor. :)

What are people’s favorite news round up sites, so I can check them out incase GNN does die?

I also put my vote to letting someone have the archives under another name if it must die.

I never bothered getting involved with the others users much, but I’ll still miss all of you. :) Good luck.


R399877
2 months ago
amraken

Oh and also, as for the forum issues, why can’t some sort of user bassed forum moderation work. A voting system like what is used to get headlines submitted would be cool – so if someone were to put rubbish on the forum, we could just vote for it to be deleted/censored, or for messages that weren’t going to create legal problems but were just a waste of time reading, they could just be replaced with a message like ‘this is rubbish’, but that could be clicked on so that people could still read them if they wished, thus not actually censoring, just saving people time.


R399891
2 months ago
jholon

when you have a more precise time-frame, stephen, or a date when the site will go off-line, please do let us knwo.

Why, so you get your stuff uploaded to your ming site in time?


R399894
2 months ago
Fifi_Lamour

So long and thanks for all the fish.


R399896
2 months ago
xenonix

i suddenly have a longing for sushi and martinis


R399898
2 months ago
Truthcansuk

Friggin’ dolphins…


R399902
2 months ago
Fifi_Lamour

See you at the end of the universe Xen and TCS. Keep up the funny business and thanks for the monkeying around over the years.


R399903
2 months ago
Foo

PM me if you would still like to read Deadduck’s and my blogs somewhere else…


R399905
2 months ago
Fifi_Lamour

Foo…totally…good to know you’re active elsewhere. Let me see if I can get GNN PMs to work for me! Would you mind posting a link out in the open or would you rather keep it on the downlow?


R399907
2 months ago
remarcus

when you have a more precise time-frame, stephen, or a date when the site will go off-line, please do let us knwo.

heh.. 5


R399908
2 months ago
Foo

I’d rather PM it because we certainly don’t want any trolls there :)


R399909
2 months ago
Truthcansuk

It was some quality monkey business, Fifi. Take care!


R399915
2 months ago
Fifi_Lamour

Hear ya Foo! I PMed you but not sure if it’s working from my end (I may have disabled it at some point and can’t be bothered seeing if I did). I’ll send you my email address.

TCS – It’s good to know you’ll be out there in the world and up to no good. Unleash the flying monkeys and arm them with wrenches and fart cushions! Or something like that…


R399916
2 months ago
Foo

Cool thx !


R399928
2 months ago
Fifi_Lamour

Thanks Foo. I can relate to DD’s traffic rants!


R400036
2 months ago
silverback

when you have a more precise time-frame, stephen, or a date when the site will go off-line, please do let us knwo

of course. nothing is going to be rushed. we’re just taking it one step at a time…


R400039
2 months ago
ShiftShapers

nothing is going to be rushed. we’re just taking it one step at a time.

in other words, slow down on the death of gnn blogs, folks. otherwise this is just going to be a long, drawn-out process. gnn on life-support?


R400040
2 months ago
ShiftShapers

don’t keep it on life support, but also don’t bury it while it’s still alive


R400041
2 months ago
gaanjah_mama

k, I didn’t read the thread, just your initial post.

Weird how it mirrored my thoughts and you and I both came back to the site within a day of each other (after a LONG hiatus on my part) for no apparent reason except that, in the back of my mind, I knew it was here.

This site is home to some of the most conversant advocates and agitators that I’ve ever had the privilege to come in contact with. It would be a pity to lose this hub.

I promise to be more active if that’s what it’s going to take to keep gnn going.

PS – this is posted AFTER my new blog and headline entries… first time I trolled the forum in MONTHS.... can you say synchronicity??


R400047
2 months ago
xenonix

fifi, foo, tcs, rem…and others that loves da’ monkeybidnessenz but with a focus

i hope you all remember how to get me…same addy as what we experimented with for a small core discussion that didn’t get far..site is still there, i just killed forum due to lack of activity

or pm thru here while it lasts

if don’t remember…let me know

if don’t really give a flying fork…that’s fine too ;p

if just want to ride off into the sunset…happy trails to you & vaya con nachos


R400048
2 months ago
gaanjah_mama

it’s gonna take me ages to pm all of you that I want to stay in touch with, but incast this place DOES go tits up…

I hope we can stay in touch somehow – smart and witty voices are hard to come by.

nancy.nancy.nancy@gmail.com


R400049
2 months ago
gaanjah_mama

it’s gonna take me ages to pm all of you that I want to stay in touch with, but in case this place DOES go tits up…

I hope we can stay in touch somehow – smart and witty voices are hard to come by.

nancy.nancy.nancy@gmail.com

Post Modified: 09/25/09 14:22:15

R400061
2 months ago
Fifi_Lamour

Damn you Xen…there is no spoon! ;-) Heh, I’ll pm you my email since it’s hard to find flying monkeys with MBAs (MonkeyBidnessAhoy) when you need one.


R400077
2 months ago
BurningMonk

wow, A&S are finally coming clean on what everybody here knew for a long time already

that’s actually quite funny: for the first time you guys are honest about, and even communicate about, your plans for this site. and now you guys are even interested in our opinions and ideas!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA

flush it down, ASAP, wankers

Sam might not blame management for the downfall of this site, I do


R400079
2 months ago
sisyphus

this^


R400080
2 months ago
Fifi_Lamour

And remember kids, next Wednesday is international blasphemy day.


R400092
2 months ago
xenonix

we gotta wait til then?

awwwwww


R400097
2 months ago
Fifi_Lamour

Holy Christ on a dick Xen…no! Ultimately one wants to be an offense to God and Good ChristiansTM by the fact of one’s mere existence but it’s always nice to have a special day to gather together to offend the righteous and light one’s farts with the villagers’ torches.


R400100
2 months ago
silverback

Sam might not blame management for the downfall of this site, I do

management? is that what i am? i’m a fucking volunteer!!!


R400101
2 months ago
Memnoch07

So why did you de-friend me anyway? I’m not that bad!


R400102
2 months ago
charlie

I think the chance for the founders of this site to pass it on to the participants and see where it goes, maybe be a very interesting spectacle. Sure, it could blow up in Their face, or, it could evolve beyond their wildest dreams. Then again it could just whimper out.

I don’t see why they’d believe it to be such a liability.


R400110
2 months ago
sisyphus

management? is that what i am? i’m a fucking volunteer!!!

you’re one of the site owners who designed the rules, made decisions on functions and aesthetics, and can manage the site (but mostly don’t). it doesn’t matter if you get paid or not, you are management


R400136
2 months ago
SunTzu

I don’t even need to keep the site as an ‘active’ site, though given free reign with the code I probably would wish to do that, If that were not possible I just want to still have access to all the real gems that have been posted here over the years (none of it posted by Shifty, by the way ;) As long as it was searchable that would be fine by me

Rather than throw away all the effort that others put in to this site, even if at times it was a cruel and mean place to visit, I don’t think they should just ditch it, and rather than doing that I see no reason legal, moral, ethical or financial reason they couldn’t just pass it on with a name change such as ‘NOT the GNN’ or something that makes no mention of GNN ever again.

Even if just given the database of all thats ever been input here I could prolly cobble together some way of using it so that all the work could still be accessed via a search engine


R400161
2 months ago
mancer

^ make the movie version

hmmm.. who can star as me ? .. oh, i know, Chuck Norris :)


R400162
2 months ago
Truthcansuk

Can he play me, too?

On Edit: If you say no, Chuck Norris will punch you so hard in the head your spleen will burst. And kick your dog. And pee in your goldfish tank. And impregnate your sister. And make sweet, sweet love to your mom while your dad watches and say’s “Damn, I want to be angry about all of this but that man is just TOO DAMN GOOD!”

ALL AT THE SAME TIME!

Post Modified: 09/25/09 21:22:30

R400204
2 months ago
remarcus

ok… fine. youre such a dick

stephen, bro. and you too, anthony and ian and the tribe.

where the fuck did your sense of humor go?

you create an unbridaled site and not expect it to be a microcosm of human inanity?
what were ya thinkin?

i am not surprised, stephen, that you would kill this. i am surprised it hasnt happened sooner with y’alls total lack of participation and

arrogance that this would somehow be connected to your careers, this ‘unbridled free-wheeling, piece of shite website’ you grown-up careerists created as boys

youve sold out. as if some of us didnt know it already

pull the plug. your name is shite


R400207
2 months ago
silverback

i can’t believe i am humoring this. but ok, sold out to what?

this?
this?
this?

i mean what the fuck are you talking about? i’m scared to ask what you do when you’re not on GNN.

and then there’s this beauty which evokes our arrogance that this would somehow be connected to your careers

somehow connected? dude, this shit is embedded in our careers. what you’re missing is that our careers aren’t mono-faceted. their multi-faceted. there is shit beyond GNN. and when it got too obnoxious dealing with sock puppets and death threats and crazy CIA conspiracies, we had to just go and be activists elsewhere. you? ummm… yeah. ok. later.

Post Modified: 09/25/09 23:35:40

R400209
2 months ago
FloydAnderson

R400212
2 months ago
FloydAnderson

R400214
2 months ago
FloydAnderson

somehow attached? dude, this shit is embedded in our careers. what you’re missing is that our careers aren’t mono-faceted. their multi-faceted. there is shit beyond GNN. and when it got too obnoxious dealing with sock puppets and death threats and crazy CIA conspiracies, we had to just go and be activists elsewhere. you? ummm… yeah. ok. later.

When I read this I imagine you have a lisp.

I’m loling likes it 1999!!!!!111!!!!


R400217
2 months ago
remarcus

silver, very nice. did you produce that?

all i’m saying is youve sold out. never said you may have sold out to nice people like ngo’s.

that was sweet

i care about victims also

on edit: how much did those cost?

Post Modified: 09/25/09 23:48:01

R400218
2 months ago
remarcus

i’m scared to ask what you do when you’re not on GNN

i fix peoples stuff, you know, like a handyman in the real world. that and i have an organic garden that many people love.

no kidding

on edit: you need to get out of the city or somethin dude. youve lost it

Post Modified: 09/25/09 23:54:33

R400219
2 months ago
1NOTHING

You are not famous, you are not reality television stars. GNN is one toilet stall wall, in the vast cavernous bathroom that is the internet.

Instead of pointing fingers and grabbing at straws, maybe you should re-examine why you chose to write.


R400220
2 months ago
remarcus

correct


R400233
2 months ago
silverback

you need to get out of the city or somethin dude. youve lost it

it’s text. you can read it anyway you want. with a lisp, if that works best. anyways, i’m not in the city, i’m in Venice and playing a ton of frisbee. i am sure you got my point whether you want to deflect or not.

as for the clips… yes, did those. they were expensive tho. both shot on HD and there’s animation etc. plus getting the crew around Africa. you’d love the 1000 Suns film, it’s all about the destruction of indigenous farming and spirituality.


R400236
2 months ago
remarcus

well, if we need to part ways… good luck in your endeavors

you should try growing your own garden. actually feed YOURSELF. i guarantee it will change your perspective

for now, hope that surfboard finds you the best set

later


R400237
2 months ago
amraken

This site can weed out the crap and draw in more good people. GNN could have a user based system to censor illegal messages, and/or to provide a warning about rubbish messages. GNN could also get a user based voting system to remove user who consistantly waste our time, and distract people with stupid ideas – such as Jholon,

Silverback – is GNN definetily going down? The problems with this site can be fixed. I think GNN is excellent, just needs a bit of TLC – please consider fixing the problems with this site, rather then throwing it all away. :)

Does anyone else like the ideas I’ve just suggested? Do you think they’d help much in improving the quality of GNN?


R400239
2 months ago
silverback

you should try growing your own garden. actually feed YOURSELF. i guarantee it will change your perspective

i know. my girlfriend, who’s birth name is Gaya, is all about it. we have friends who run community gardens in LA etc etc. so yeah. it’s going to be all about self-sufficiency in the future. i applaud you for being so ahead of the curve.

please consider fixing the problems with this site, rather then throwing it all away

amraken, i really appreciate this post. but GNN, as it is now, is just not functional. for a lot of the reasons Szamko laid out in his eulogy. and for others that are just implicitly tied to the system that was created. people make fun of me for thinking that we could have had a vital and fair-minded community without censorship or moderation, and i admit it was a huge fuck up to proceed with that ideal. but that was one of the cornerstones of this site. it just can’t work. we actually once had 40-50K a day coming thru the site and massively popular videos like S-11, Countdown, and Mosh. they brought hundreds of thousands. but they never stayed. and that’s for lots of reasons. but mostly, i feel, b/c of the caustic nature of the forums.

anyways, that’s beside the point. right now the site needs to come down and people need to get all their info from it in a smooth way. if we can find a way of re-birthing GNN so that it actually works and honors the hard work put in by its core contributors, then we’ll definitely try. but it costs. we actually did an entire re-design of the site and then couldn’t afford to code and implement it. it was brutal and disheartening. so it’s not for lack of effort. it also needs money. and that’s getting harder and harder to win from funders. so we’ll see. but for now, i think we need to collapse this so that, if something new is to be built, it can be from scratch (at least tech wise).


R400240
2 months ago
FloydAnderson

it also needs money. and that’s getting harder and harder to win from funders. so we’ll see. but for now, i think we need to collapse this so that, if something new is to be built, it can be from scratch (at least tech wise)

Fuck You Stephen Marshall the Memory Hole Boy From Hell!! You must hate truth and reality and you must love image and illusion!!


R400242
2 months ago
peacemaker

Wow
This ranks right up there with the loss of my mother. Never thought I would see the day. Well guess that is not necessarily true, if memory serves me correctly, the launch of GNN 2 came about the same time as GW being elected the first time, both black days in my history. But at least we had CHAT. Albeit with many delays due to the transition. God did I freak. ;) I thought I was cut off from the only friends that understood how I was feeling.

Speaking of friends, this seems a good time to name a few:
Remarcus, whom I turned onto GNN after seeing it in my local paper and who use to drive me crazy by staying up all night. On dial up no less. GNN 1 taught both of us about CHAT and virtual friends. Rising Legion, Truthcansuck, (hope the family is doing well) Justlurking who walked us through our first few months with A LOT of patience. Speaking of patience DIMITRE was the best programmer and moderator you ever had.
EEPI – Hope she is doing o.k. Empress, Bambi, Tupper, Augustina and Meme, who actually met on GNN 1 and got married, how cool is that! Xenionix with his sense of humor, lord how I loved that. Libby, Darios, (who sent me the SHIZNIT file of cooking, Thank you so much) Marla Singer (aka The Fist of God), Rita, Rebel (hope she is still happily married), Gaanjah mama, Fifi, Fen, Sisphyus, Memonoch with his tales of China. Snark (and Forbes, great idea) how about Perm?? Bodocusia

AND then we had the loveable trolls Anon 437, Mr. Special, Josh (even though he was really a softie ;) Bin.

I remember a lot of other friends and other trolls, just can’t remember the names. But the memories are there.

I know that GNN is supposed to be political, but for me it helped me get through raising a child, a relationship and some really tough times. It was family. It was community.

Sorry Stephen and Anthony but not having chat was a bad idea, that and hiring Jesse, (should have kept Dimi) I know you tried at times, but the GNN 2 community was never and could never be the same as the GNN 1.

I appreciate your efforts, but it seems as if your burned out, time to cut your losses and refresh.

Thank you for a great time and good luck with your future endeavors.

All my love
Peacemaker


R400243
2 months ago
silverback

let’s not forget SPK!


R400246
2 months ago
BurningMonk

management? is that what i am? i’m a fucking volunteer!!!

give me a fucking break…

dude, when were you in Belgium with the “new” site design? is it 2 or 3 years ago already?

you’re one of the owners of this site, that means you’re management

every time a thread like this pops up, all you crybaby’s start reminiscing about infamous users who left the site already

fuck that shit

maybe you should ask yourselves why they left

this site was dead when they pulled ‘Investigations’ and replaced it by ‘Promotions’


R400247
2 months ago
silverback

the sense of entitlement is fascinating, anthropologically speaking. (on edit)

Post Modified: 09/26/09 02:43:52

R400249
2 months ago
BurningMonk

HAHAHAAA

Are you really that ignorant?

What did you expect? Create a social network and nobody will demand something from you?

If you really had any notion of anthropology, you could’ve foreseen this happening.

This just proves what I’ve said before: GNN is managed like a little boys club. It started out as a vanity project for you guys and then it got out of control. You guys lacked the vision to take the project beyond you’re own personal interests.

... and the only reason why I’m venting my frustration now is because I once believed in the potential of the site. But you guys killed it.


R400250
2 months ago
aganunitsi

This just proves what I’ve said before…

The GNN mantra.


R400251
2 months ago
silverback

...it tends to saddle up next to healthy sense of victimization.

interestingly, i’ve been getting two types of message from people here. one that is grateful for what was created, and the other that is angry for what wasn’t. there are enough of both from people of clearly vibrant intellects that there is no right or wrong answer. so it’s a rorschach. it says more about you than anything else, i believe. to be this pissed off about something that was really just an experiment. built without the quest for profit. that was always kind of shaky. is kind of like tilting at windmills.

so no. people aren’t all the same. and there are people who just get along and make the best of shit. and there are people who bitch when shit changes.


R400274
2 months ago
SunTzu

There’s a third response you seem to be ignoring despite your offer to ‘discuss’

many of the current users are asking you to

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R400280
2 months ago
Truthcansuk

Silver – ...it tends to saddle up next to healthy sense of victimization.

Heh… You always say you don’t understand why people mock other people on these forums. Methinks you get it.

Some people paint a target on their chest and just cry out for it, no?


R400286
2 months ago
SunTzu


R400302
2 months ago
ShiftShapers

stephen i really appreciate all you did for us over the years keeping this place going and though i am really bummed it will be shutting down i guess what i care about most is that it’s archived and accessible and stays on the web, even if it’s not an active website anymore that we can log into and post.


R400315
2 months ago
gaanjah_mama

yes – what shifty said!


R400326
2 months ago
silverback

what i care about most is that it’s archived and accessible and stays on the web, even if it’s not an active website anymore that we can log into and post.

yes.


R400404
2 months ago
amraken

SunTzu, dude, Silverback said he’d talk to the other owners about releasing the code. LOL – patience bro.

Microdot, shiftshaper, SunTzu and grady – plz PM me where you will be going for news and to communicate with like minded people – you guys seem like good people. There are others I’d also like to know where you’re going too, but I have to go back through some of the forums and headlines to get your handles, because I can’t remember right now.


R400434
2 months ago
ShiftShapers

amraken, you can find me on GUN and subMedia, but for news I go to sources i am ideologically aligned with like Infoshop News, Anarchist News, and Indymedia, but for more mainstream-ish alternative news of the sort I’ve been reposting as headlines here on GNN, my inbox is flooded on a daily basis with newsletter digests from the likes of AlterNet, Common Dreams, Truthout, Counterpunch, Consortium News, Information Clearing House, Global Research, etc.


R400439
2 months ago
glaszrai

Well my two cents are that killing GNN will disconnect the users from each other and sort of disenfranchise the already disenfranchised… I have noticed over the last couple of years the “infowars” people come over and that has taken the overall level of intelligence down with it but I like being able to catch up to what others are thinking and what they find important…. GNN may not have loads of people but the people it does have even when I disagree with them are pretty smart folks… I am a big fan of Shiftshapers articles and headlines among others….

I was able to hook up with some cool people and do some cool things cause of this website…. I personally will find it a great loss. I know there are other sites but the interactivity and overall intelligent people is why I came here…

Plus I have to admit that over the years my written grammar has improved because of these picky ass bastards.

So whatever happens, Cheers to all of you and thanks to the founders! I know we gave you shit over the years but we kept coming back cause we felt ,overall, that this place was worth coming back too. The internet is inundated with total shit…. GNN tried to be better then that, most other places do not.

Suggestion, Maybe you should go “balls deep” instead… Take on “infowars” head on get video, radio and more original content and documentary’s, all the sorts… do what they do but for folks who like to look at all sides of the cube and without teaming up with fox….


R400615
2 months ago
GWHunta

There’s a wealth of information here and I’ve personally gone out on many limbs revealing just some of what’s gone on during the political and moral devolution of this county, state and country.

It’s not difficult to understand why this site isn’t a commercial success.

I personally didn’t/don’t come here looking for new products or merchandise.

I came here to enlighten and expose at considerable cost to myself and loved ones.

The founders would be amazed to know some of the real world power brokers who have come here to witness what’s being revealed about them and find themselves powerless to suppress the message.

Even if it isn’t reaching tens of thousands, it’s provided them with a mirror that gives them a true reflection of the human impact of their actions and inactions.

That’s free speech deserving of preservation and a forum/context for continuance and expansion.

Peace,

Post Modified: 09/28/09 22:10:57

R400628
2 months ago
GWHunta

By abandoning this site, they’ll be taking away the voice of the soon to be voiceless, which is a terrible shame as the best I’ve to offer is yet to come.


R400629
2 months ago
charlie

I don’t think they’ll let this site die. They’ll pass it on, I’m sure of it.


R400630
2 months ago
FloydAnderson

what they are about to possibly do here is destroy a community…....and they have no good reason. that’s probably why they are so quiet.

is this the Expiration date: 19 Oct 2009 17:41:08

or is this: Expires on…...........: Wed, Jan 13, 2010


R400636
2 months ago
GWHunta

They won’t just be destroying this community, but will endanger the individuals who’ve dared to publicly divulge information embarrassing to the perpetrators of injustice.

Good work digging this up Floyd. My bet is the October 19th date as it seems to be the most current regarding updates.

Sometimes no Peace


R400691
2 months ago
mtnlungta

do we all get a free t-shirt as a parting gift?
actually one per year of service would be cool
or at least a veterans discount eh?
or a t-shirt pension plan for GNN vets
one a year out of the garage til like all pension plans …they are gone
XXL long sleeve if possible
vari, liv, zoe….lets plan a relapse/wake…..
all invited


R400692
2 months ago
Truthcansuk

Floyd – what they are about to possibly do here is destroy a community…....and they have no good reason.

Seriously? You think they really have no reason to stop paying for this site? For not having their names associated with it anymore? For not logging onto their own website and read the abuse and the stupidity?

More to the point, you don’t see why they wouldn’t want to just hand over the keys to someone they’ve never even met IRL?

Why not just collect the people you all appreciate and facebook em’, or start a site for them to go to?


R400694
2 months ago
Truthcansuk

GWHunta – They won’t just be destroying this community, but will endanger the individuals who’ve dared to publicly divulge information embarrassing to the perpetrators of injustice.

Exactacticly how would they be endangering anyone, GW?


R400772
2 months ago
GWHunta

They won’t directly TCS.

But the glimmer of light and public exposure that GNN provides or even the illusion thereof inhibits the actions of those who’d take the freedom of speech and right on down the list from those they’ve already disenfranchised for the protection of their own public images.

That’s simply a fact.

I don’t expect most here have read what we’ve put out there on GNN, but the ability to link to it, e-mail it and most importantly add to it and expound on what’s already been put out there is important in maintaining some “power” in a world of gross injustice.

Follow a few links and you’ll maybe get the full meaning of just how bad it can be here.

Post Modified: 09/29/09 16:33:57

R400876
2 months ago
remarcus

buped for relevance


R400891
2 months ago
DeLozierII

Once upon a time I was known here as DeLozier. I haven’t logged in to the forum for so many years that I haven’t a clue what email address or pass I may have used. It was right after the transfer to GNN 2.0 that I stopped participating, and became only an observer….. so I guess that makes me from the old school.

I am currently rebuilding my website, which used to be a stand alone blog/profile. I can archive GNN, or at least the parts that are most needed to the community. I could possibly purchase the domain, however that doesn’t seem to be what the creators want.

Another possibility is that I could host a new site, using elements of the GNN platform or a completely new format…. with archived data from GNN accessible for research purposes.

I am willing to work with both the creators and the remaining users to ensure a future for the best parts of GNN. Because it was GNN that I came to the most when I re-awoke, post 9-11. The redux video was one I liked the most, emailing it, posting it in other forums, telling friends to come to GNN and watch it…..

Let me know if there is anything I can do, I would hate to think that it is over for this site completely. You will know my email by looking into your new users….

Post Modified: 09/30/09 14:53:15

R400926
2 months ago
Floppin

This is truly a shame. I have used this site as my homepage for at least five years now. I never really contributed and it took me nearly two years to create a profile, which I never used…. I always enjoyed the articles and the discussion and loved it as a home page because it provided a filter through the bullshit of the other news sites. I would like to extend my thanks for the site over the years and wish everyone the best.


R400933
2 months ago
StepUpForbes

I created this profile just so I could post this, and I don’t know what I’m about to write.

I’ve been here with you for the eight years. I never created a profile because I think forums are a load of horse shit. I don’t have time to waste convincing some loud mouth confrontational juvenile minded ‘activist’ on my point of view. I’d just rather read, and discuss in person with those in my life who haven’t heard what is said here. I’m sorry I never dropped in, or wrote, or contributed. But I was here, and I’ve had it in my homepages for almost the entire time. I turned many a friend to this site for their alternative news.

I’ll fucking cry, even just a little, if this place goes up in smoke. At the very, very least, archive it as a torrent. I’ll dedicate an old piece of shit tower to seed the thing until the machine dies. Then make another machine to do it.

This is my favourite news site. It’s where I come to remind myself that SOMEBODY gives a shit about the truth. Sometimes I don’t even read the articles, I just come to know you’re still alive.

If you have to go, go. I am not judging you, because I don’t deny what life and change is. We do what we need to. But remember that regardless of the dwindling numbers. ... the internet, and it’s EVER expanding community, needs places like this.

GNN will do a great deal more good for the world of activism by adapting to the changing landscape.

Cheers.


R400944
2 months ago
mikecimerian

I have had my butt kicked a few times but GNN is the only site where I come back for more.


R400974
2 months ago
deadduck

I haven’t been active in awhile, and not in any meaningful way for longer than that.

Best of luck to everyone on whatever else you’ve got going on.


R400976
2 months ago
remarcus

where did you go?


R400977
2 months ago
remarcus

pm me, fag


R401012
2 months ago
amrev360

Haven’t posted in awhile… been busy, but I still check the site for news n commentary. Sorry to hear the site is shutting down, been around since 1.0, but the t-shirts cost a fortune…


R401018
2 months ago
remarcus

fuck the t-shirts… buy the dvd


R401044
2 months ago
xenonix

you shill


R401045
2 months ago
aganunitsi

I’ve got an autographed copy of Shooting War. For realz.


R401142
2 months ago
CSSLab


R401146
2 months ago
CSSLab


R401153
2 months ago
sisyphus

hi peacemaker!


R401211
2 months ago
LRF

5 years I’ve been reading.
Random blogs and the occasional visit to the forum were a bad idea, i hates teh internet trollz.

but, it’s been my homepage, and i’ve forced it upon friends, and theres no other news site like it.

I will sure as hell miss it, and i know my friends will too.

thanks.


R401223
2 months ago
NotHellcat

I came back to save this place!!!

Worry not!


R401229
2 months ago
Truthcansuk

heh…


R401230
2 months ago
remarcus

peacemaker:

AND then we had the loveable trolls Anon 437, Mr. Special, Josh (even though he was really a softie ;) Bin.

heh, josh was a troll?


R401231
2 months ago
Truthcansuk

Bin?

Binyamin was… WAS A TROLL

Oh man, was I really that pwned?


R401232
2 months ago
remarcus

there was a certain naivette… heh


R401233
2 months ago
remarcus

we should throw gnn a going away party


R401234
2 months ago
remarcus

i’m sure deoxy would willingly host a chat


R401240
2 months ago
aspenweeping

Sorry to see it go!



R401245
2 months ago
AreolaSharonIII

HEH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GNN IS DEAD !!!!!!!!!!!


R401246
2 months ago
ill_logik

wow that sucks, soooo many good, great and info filed times. gonna miss it here for sure. it’s been my homepage for years. v1.0 i was Letsgetfree, this place helped me cut my teeth with building and defending an argument.

i think although given up on for a while by a+s (although they say they tried to relaunch) it still has huge potential to be a place to disseminate information. if others in the community want to help take on the burden (joy) of making it run, why not let them steven? i think liability is a poor excuse, letting go of gnn shouldn’t be too hard for you inner circle peeps, seems you did a long time ago.

not to get bitchy, i really do appreciate what you tried to do here. and i learned so much about how the world of deep politics works. big ups for that. i just hate to think it won’t be here for other people coming up in the world trying to find a place for new ideas.

give the thought of passing it on some serious merit, i think you would be doing a service to the net and really give what you’ve done here the chance to fly, kick it outta the nest, we’re ready.

namaste
illogik


R401276
2 months ago
EGisJUICE

and when it got too obnoxious dealing with sock puppets and death threats and crazy CIA conspiracies, we had to just go and be activists elsewhere. you? ummm… yeah. ok. later.

Well not all of us have the means, or the “talent” to make shitty remakes of Medium Cool the way an activist like you does.


R401277
2 months ago
EGisJUICE

The forums/boards at rigorous intuition are pretty good for anyone interested…


R401439
1 month ago
FloydAnderson

i think although given up on for a while by a+s (although they say they tried to relaunch) it still has huge potential to be a place to disseminate information. if others in the community want to help take on the burden (joy) of making it run, why not let them steven? i think liability is a poor excuse, letting go of gnn shouldn’t be too hard for you inner circle peeps, seems you did a long time ago.

perhaps GNN could be reborn as:


R401440
1 month ago
FloydAnderson

i just hate to think it won’t be here for other people coming up in the world trying to find a place for new ideas.

yep


R401450
1 month ago
FloydAnderson

R401459
1 month ago
FloydAnderson

I would really like to see this place live on. and I say forget about trying to run this place as a business. No ads. No store.

Paying for the site would be up to us, like how proxywhore.com does it.


R401604
1 month ago
mancer

good to see we are back online


R401778
1 month ago
FloydAnderson

R401802
1 month ago
ShiftShapers

where you ever down with the “GNN is a Psy-Op” claim, Floyd?

honest question, ‘cause i don’t remember.

but anyone who was, or who thinks GNN is some sort of government or intel op, certainly shouldn’t be arguing for it to stay online, and should in fact be cheering its demise.

i of course reject the absurd and conjecture-based argument that GNN is a government/intel psyop, but i would certainly say there are many psy-ops going on within GNN, some of government origin, others of different origins. there is certainly a concerted campaign to discredit gnn by flooding it with racist screeds, etc., but i reject the notion that GNN itself is the psy-op. if anything, GNN itself was a victim and casualty of whatever psy-ops found free reign here.


R402011
1 month ago
scooter

Sad to see this site go down… I also used to check v1.0, then created an account for 2.0.

This site is a treasure trove of news headlines, and other information that could never coalesce into a more in-depth investigation or argument. Too bad, but I’d agree with Burning Monk on the why… (a bunch of free interns, but no tasks to complete…)

Also, if Silverback is concerned about ownership issues, then that could be overcome… If the GNN structure is corporate, then the 4 owners could sell their shares… If this is a ‘not-for-profit’ then the Trustees could be changed. To claim this cannot be done, is… well – self-evident. The owners are worried about future negative associations with a site they no longer control.

As for the Psy-op? What better way to make people ineffective? by having them spend their time reading and typing on a computer… And if shifty isn’t part of a psy-op, ‘they’ watch him so closely it would be just the same… C’mon the guy promotes sedition and treason (although ‘treason’ is usually from the person who is riding on top… revolution if you’re on bottom)


R402330
1 month ago
desultory01

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

DIE PLZ

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