Tuesday, November 17, 2009

Guerrilla DNC Debriefing

Guerrilla DNC Debriefing

Sat, 30 Aug 2008 13:55:04 -0500
R350769
1 year ago
FloydAnderson

Is that a real GNN press pass? Does Anthony issue those?


R350780
1 year ago
hungeski

Thanks to all our street reporters. May the wind be with you.


R350781
1 year ago
FloydAnderson

did you get any footage of the Rage concert?


R350782
1 year ago
TheIvoryPoacher

great stuff dude.


R350785
1 year ago
alexander

I am glad you were able to do this.


R350786
1 year ago
FloydAnderson

R350820
1 year ago
Livingston

And man we had fun fucking with those “God loves dead fags” Christian fascist fucks. Every time we found them we organized guy on guy and girl on girl make-out sessions right in front of them.

oh fuck man! i must’ve just missed you. me and my friend joe spent some quality time heckling those assholes – saw a couple of gals making out at one point. we prolly passed each other a few times… the rage concert was amazing – as was the march to the pepsi center.

i just got back from camping up at st marys glacier – im pooling together my photos from the madness – will blog it soon.

great work to everybody that got out in the streets.

take care


R350829
1 year ago
johnnycivil

tag em and bag em


R350831
1 year ago
ShiftShapers

no i was busy filming out in the streets when the rage concert was going on. got there just in time to film the vets coming out.

and yeah, sounds like we did just miss one another, Liv. I was the one with the handycam with the jolly roger skull & crossbones sticker on the front of the little flip-out screen viewer thing. other than that I of course changed my shirt, hat, and bandanna every day. but i think by that point we weren’t wearing our masks around FNB just because it was a green zone area. actually the first time we saw Fred Phelps’ group down on Colfax as we were driving back to base camp for supplies, and called our friends at Civic Center, who rallied up a crowd from FNB. i wasn’t there for that but i hear it was crazy. i was however there for the time they were by FNB and also the time one was alone over by that weird Ashram installment thing.


R350836
1 year ago
FloydAnderson

So does a GNN press pass give you special access of any kind?


R350998
1 year ago
johnnycivil

to jail cells, yes.


R350999
1 year ago
FloydAnderson

You get access to jails?


R351016
1 year ago
ShiftShapers

So does a GNN press pass give you special access of any kind?

like i said, i never even printed the thing out or picked up my indymedia one. i got everywhere i wanted and tried to go, except through police lines, of course, but hell, even corporate media got trapped in that one.

in other words, i don’t know if it would have gotten me access to any areas that i wouldn’t have had access to otherwise, because i didn’t try and find out. what i can tell you is that those with indymedia (and other alternative or underground) press credentials are actually often targeted, and often under false pretenses, just so footage can be seized and then the videographer release and charges dropped. they do that to almost anyone they want off the streets then and there. just swoop them up, get them off the streets, and then drop the bunk charges later. the purpose is to get people off the streets when and where they pose a threat, rather than to actually prosecute crimes (though this often happens as well. “justice” is a racket).


R351019
1 year ago
FloydAnderson

Did Anthony issue it to you?


R351059
1 year ago
FloydAnderson

R351060
1 year ago
ShiftShapers

i have been instructed by my reptilian overlords not to answer your absurd and irrelevant question


R351061
1 year ago
ShiftShapers

i don’t see what difference it makes if i made it myself or if anthony issued it to me.


R351062
1 year ago
FloydAnderson

But I thought Senior Staff Reporter Johanna Civil got hers from Anthony…


R351063
1 year ago
Livingston

cuzzzzz shifty its not faiiiiiiiiiirrrr!

i want a G’rilla badge too! you get one, the CIA operative pretending to be a crazyed smokin hot blond sniper gets one, so what tha faaaakkkkk?

how we gonna make a revolution if we aint got badges?


R351064
1 year ago
FloydAnderson

R351067
1 year ago
Livingston

i got ma press pass picture! gimme a badge, dammit!


R351071
1 year ago
FloydAnderson

Here ya go:

lolz!


R351082
1 year ago
FloydAnderson

R351088
1 year ago
FloydAnderson

R351092
1 year ago
Livingston

ahahahhahahah

yeah floyd!

thanks!


R351096
1 year ago
FloydAnderson

i have been instructed by my reptilian overlords not to answer your absurd and irrelevant question

well, sir…...that is a very interesting comment


R351126
1 year ago
AlexSupertramp

Ok, here’s my question. Instead of spending so much time and energy protesting at the DNC or RNC, that is really not going to do anything, let’s be honest with ourselves, wouldn’t it be more useful to spend time and energy covering the Green Party Convention (I am not even sure if there is one, but you get my point)? Why are we wasting time with this and not doing anything to help get the word out about third party candidates, especially fucking awesome ones like Cynthia Mckinney? You can hardly find any information about her candidacy anywhere, including so-called “liberal” media, it’s utter bullshit.


R351207
1 year ago
ShiftShapers

she spoke at the DNC, Supertramp, and hung out with the crowd. her running mate spoke too. i filmed both. there was also an “open up the debates” thing with Nader. i assume similar things are occurring at the RNC. i hear RP’s counter-convention has been going well.


R351208
1 year ago
FloydAnderson

where did your press pass go ShiftShapers?

http://shiftshapers.gnn.tv/blogs/29224/Guerrilla_DNC_Debriefing

Post Modified: 09/04/08 02:54:35

R351209
1 year ago
SaryshaganTiger

i hear RP’s counter-convention has been going well.

That must make you sad, smear artist bitch.


R351210
1 year ago
SaryshaganTiger

RP hates blacks!!!!11
A cartoon with a molotov told me!!1

Post Modified: 09/04/08 02:32:45

R351211
1 year ago
FloydAnderson

R351212
1 year ago
SaryshaganTiger

Did you just unmask him? lol
they’ll ban you…


R351213
1 year ago
bodo

i hear RP’s counter-convention has been going well.

Ya, Ventura was the best part.


R351244
1 year ago
ShiftShapers

That must make you sad, smear artist bitch.

i’ve always been clear that although i disagree with RP on many key issues, and in fact find him quite dangerous, i do not fail to appreciate the things he has people talking and thinking about.


R351256
1 year ago
AlexSupertramp

Hey Shifty, are you going to post those videos of Cynthia, Rosa and Ralph Nader? That would be really cool, thanks. Don’t get me wrong, I do appreciate the sentiment behind protesting against the democratic and republican candidates, but I even more so appreciate the efforts put into showing people that there are alternatives, and pretty fucking good ones! These efforts are not quite enough, sadly. I wish I was there to do my share. But you have a good heart and I appreciate that very much.


R351268
1 year ago
ShiftShapers

well, Alex, i was filming on re-writable discs and handing them over to Franklin Lopez, and they were dumped onto computers and shared with the likes of Denver Open Media, Colorado Indymedia, Free Speech TV, and the Denver Film School. i reused the discs after they dumped them onto computers, meaning i deleted the data on my discs. if anyone knows where to get all that footage, it’s Stimulator. I think clips of my footage of those speakers made it into his show, but i’m not sure, ‘cause the Pepperspray kids where there filming too. hopefully someone out there will be able to send me all of my footage on a dvd or something.


R351269
1 year ago
ShiftShapers

oh yeah and i didn’t make it to the Nader “open the debates” event, because it was during the IVAW march, which i filmed. missed Critical Mass for that as well. a few kids from our crew who wanted to remain as low-risk as possible went, however, and there were certainly film crews there.


R351303
1 year ago
FloydAnderson

‘Scuse Me While I Whip This Out


R351305
1 year ago
MarchHare

Shifty, care to explain the photoshopped press pass?

...Or should we just add this to the long, long list of “things that don’t quite add up over at Guerrilla News Network”?


R351307
1 year ago
FloydAnderson

R351308
1 year ago
FloydAnderson

R351309
1 year ago
ShiftShapers

care to explain the photoshopped press pass?

not really. you’ll just spin it into something it isn’t anyways.

what i can say is that i could have made a better one myself, so don’t insult me.

i assume that a generic template was used to make the press pass. so what?

Post Modified: 09/04/08 21:40:26

R351310
1 year ago
MarchHare

Did Anthony buy that press pass from the website it was taken from and send it to you, or did you just photoshop the picture and claim that he did so?


R351319
1 year ago
Number5Toad


R351320
1 year ago
FloydAnderson

R351323
1 year ago
FloydAnderson

R351325
1 year ago
JustLurking

oh my lord


R351347
1 year ago
FloydAnderson

I think clips of my footage of those speakers made it into his show, but i’m not sure


R351353
1 year ago
bodo


R351365
1 year ago
FloydAnderson

R351375
1 year ago
MarchHare

Can you please stop spamming the thread? I am trying to get an answer to a very simple question.

ShiftShapers, Did Anthony buy that press pass from the website it was taken from and send it to you, or did you just photoshop the picture and claim that he did so?


R351376
1 year ago
MarchHare

Shifty and Anphony must be busy getting their story straight.


R351384
1 year ago
desultory01

“...using one illegally in Indiana will land someone in the state pen for a few years! The Indiana State Police issue press passes and it’s illegal if you show up at certain things without one or use one not issued to you specifically. These have to be renewed as well…the AP takes this sort of thing VERY seriously and will prosecute. People who do this sort of thing give those of us who do things legally a bad name, and it’s why press passes are getting tougher to come by, especially for some events.”

Go here to get signed up instead


R351400
1 year ago
Fifi_Lamour

So, let me get this straight, shifty went to the RNC as a “reporter” but he doesn’t even have copies of anything he filmed?!? Now, that’s the kind of thing a civilian witness may do but it’s certainly not something any bona fide journalist would do (or even a J school beginner). Journalists tell stories, they report on what’s going on, contextualizing the situation and presenting the facts (and knowing one’s source, even if they’re anonymous, is important). Of course, it seems to me that shifty’s desire to provoke violent action at the RNC also runs counter to being a journalist and ultimately it all makes him more likely/susceptible to engage in staged/provoked propaganda (just of the shifty sort rather than the mainstream) so I guess it’s probably better that he isn’t attempting to actually engage in journalism.

So shifty, are you telling us you don’t you even have access to the footage or know where it is or how it’s being used?


R351408
1 year ago
ShiftShapers

shifty went to the RNC as a “reporter”

no, i went to the DNC, and it was as a videographer, not a reporter. Franklin does the actual “reporting.”

Did Anthony buy that press pass from the website it was taken from and send it to you, or did you just photoshop the picture and claim that he did so?

i can’t speak for anthony (nor do i wish to betray his confidence, so i will let him speak for himself, if he cares to do so), but i didn’t photoshop anything. like i said, i would have made a much cooler looking one than that. the IMC ones looked really cool. but like i said before, i never even printed that g’ pass out and attempted to utilize it. i just never got my ass into a kinkos, and i was running on low funds as it was.

shifty’s desire to provoke violent action at the RNC

cite plz

are you telling us you don’t you even have access to the footage or know where it is or how it’s being used?

i know where and how it is being used. i made it available to all as “copyleft,” but pretty much left that in the hands of Franklin (see “shiftshaper” in the video credits on the DNC episodes of ITEOTWAWKI), Denver Open Media, and CO IMC. hopefully the footage will be made available for review for the legal defense team, because i am sure the footage will be useful in court. to tell you the truth, Denver was pretty non-violent (very, in comparison to the RNC), and i’m pretty sure i didn’t get any incriminating evidence of any crimes. (this is not to say that the footage would not prove useful to the likes of the feds for purposes of identification, etc.) and i will hopefully be sent a copy of the raw material, but who knows. i don’t really care. but i trust the likes of Franklin and the CO IMC crew.

Post Modified: 09/05/08 10:01:47

R351436
1 year ago
Fifi_Lamour

Fair enough, you were merely a cameraman.

Either GNN issues a presspass or they didn’t, it’s hardly “breaking a confidence” to be open about this – people are either officially affiliated with a news organism or not, it’s not a contingency thing or a secret (quite the opposite in fact, the intent is to legally and publicall tie a journalist with a publication/organization).

Shifty you go on endlessly about “violent direct action” and we’ve already debated it – unlike you I’m not so obsessed by your image that I care enough to look it up and create links, others can either agree or disagree with me based upon their own observations.

When someone else asked for footage from you you said you’d recorded, dumped and then re-recorded over the previous footage and didn’t have access to it. Interesting that you don’t really care what use it’s put to, particularly since your yourself note that it could be used against protesters.


R351509
1 year ago
ShiftShapers

you go on endlessly about “violent direct action”

heh! and you say you don’t have to cite? please. that one is even in quotation marks!

direct action, yes. violent? no! cite one instance where i’ve spoken of *violent* direct action. just one.

ps – violence is an act of bodily harm to living beings. property destruction is not violence. unless, that is, you hold private property to be more important than life and living beings.


R351510
1 year ago
ShiftShapers

Interesting that you don’t really care what use it’s put to,

of course i do! that’s exactly why i left it in the hands of those i did, and exactly why i dumped the data from my discs and reused them.


R351511
1 year ago
ShiftShapers

Either GNN issues a presspass or they didn’t, it’s hardly “breaking a confidence” to be open about this

fair enough. yes, “GNN” issued me the press pass. now let’s see how much further you can twist this…


R351512
1 year ago
ShiftShapers

particularly since your yourself note that it could be used against protesters.

that’s what the legal team is for. any incriminating footage should be deleted immediately. those who did not wish to be identified should have either not been in front of the cameras, asked for the cameras to be put away, or been masked. many were masked. but the cameras damn near outnumbered the signs and banners at many marches and actions. and the feds and cops have their own footage, which is undoubtedly better than ours. they had installed all sorts of wireless surveillance cameras all over Denver.


R351521
1 year ago
FloydAnderson

fair enough. yes, “GNN” issued me the press pass. now let’s see how much further you can twist this…

Why’d you take the press pass off your blog?


R351527
1 year ago
ShiftShapers

because the situation was obviously getting out of control, as usual (everyone making their own parody passes, etc.), and because i like the photo i replaced it with, mostly because a friend is in it, and also because it’s just a good photo (not to mention that that’s the justice center in the background).

Post Modified: 09/05/08 18:00:20

R351532
1 year ago
Namaste_Rich

because the situation was obviously getting out of control, as usual (everyone making their own parody passes, etc.)

ha ha ha, Toad…. I can feel it!.

Post Modified: 06/27/09 22:04:56

R351533
1 year ago
FloydAnderson

See you in the streets Forbes!


R351542
1 year ago
WTCancer

Watch out for coons in yur kitchen.


R352633
1 year ago
FloydAnderson

Has Franklin sent your DNC video footage to you yet Shifty? I wanna see some radical ShiftShapers mash-up guerrilla action vids. What’s your youtube page again?


R352636
1 year ago
ShiftShapers

I wanna see some radical ShiftShapers mash-up guerrilla action vids.

i don’t do editing/production. at least not yet. i just don’t know how. but i would like to get ahold of the raw footage i filmed, if possible.

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