Monday, November 30, 2009

Al Gore Confronted On Climategate In Chicago

Al Gore Confronted On Climategate In Chicago

Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:00:11 -0600
R406709
29 minutes ago
FloydAnderson

Woman Indicted of Threatening Bomb-Plot Informant Brandon Darby

Woman Indicted of Threatening Bomb-Plot Informant Brandon Darby

Fri, 28 Aug 2009 14:15:59 -0500
R396497
3 months ago
ShiftShapers

FUCK YOU, Brandon Darby!

death is too good for you.


R396502
3 months ago
jholon

Members of the Austin protest community heaped scorn on Darby, saying he had betrayed longtime friends and colleagues.

Why? because he called the cops to stop a firebomb attack?

I don’t know too many people who wouldn’t call the police if they were privy to a serious crime about to be committed.


R396503
3 months ago
ShiftShapers

called the cops? can you fucking read, jho? he actively infiltrated for the FBI for a long period of time.

he actually instigated the making of the molotovs and entrapped the defendants. the fucking pigs credit him with the fact that they were never used, but that’s some motherfuckin’ bullshit they made up as a smokescreen covering the fact that he was actually the instigator of the devices’ construction.

Post Modified: 08/28/09 15:06:43

R396504
3 months ago
ShiftShapers

oh and if you’re in the forum go to the blog view so you can see the related items and get a more thorough understanding of the background and context of this case.


R396505
3 months ago
alreadydead

he’s not some good samaritan concerned citizen blowhard. He was both a buried spy and a manipulative inciter.
“When McKay testified in his own defense, he claimed Darby entrapped him. He told jurors that had it not been for Darby’s urgings, he never would have built the Molotov cocktails.”
of course i believe in responsibility for one’s own actions, but it is CLEAR that this asshat darby was not ringing the alarm on violent criminals for the good of anyone, but trying to coerce the desired actions through emotional manipulation out of the people he was informing on in order to prosecute them. read some shit on the greenscare sometime?


R396507
3 months ago
jholon

called the cops? can you fucking read, jho? he actively infiltrated for the FBI for a long period of time.

You are splitting hairs. Informants usually start out by observing criminal behaviour and wanting to help the cops gather evidence. This Derby guy’s intention was to stop a criminal conspiracy.

I would say that it is not nice to infiltrate a peaceful group, but if the group is peaceful, why infiltrate it?

Let me pose this question to you.

If a skin head group whose members normally hung out and trade racist jokes and play racist rock music, but normally hurt no-one, one day suddenly decides to plot a lynching of a blackman who criticized the group. A member of the skinheads who opposes violence, calls the cops and is asked by the cops to snitch on his fellow skinheads so they can stop the conspiracy and gather evidence to put them in jail.

When it all comes out, the crime is prevented and the informant testifies in court, and of course the skin heads are all indignant and threatening the informant for violating the non-snitch ethics of group, are you one to accuse the informant of being a dirty rat, or did he do the right thing?


R396508
3 months ago
jholon

alreadydead is basing his argument on the testimony of an accused.

Got news for you, accused people lie, they do it all the time. They spend hours with their lawyers going over their stories. Don’t you know that?

I don’t know what happened, but neither do you. But obviously the cops and prosecutor are on the case and they are figuring these things out.


R396509
3 months ago
alreadydead

trust the one accused more than the sneaking, inciting informant :)


R396511
3 months ago
charlie

the bonehead would be a dirty rat.

best to fire bomb the racists (and the pigs).
especially if they’re claiming to be skins.

had it not been for Darby’s urgings, he never would have built the Molotov cocktails.

Sounds like some BS, lets not be so naive. Naturally, I would’ve said the same thing ;)

Post Modified: 08/28/09 15:32:42

R396514
3 months ago
alreadydead

manipulation and incitement are common tactics among these type of infiltrators(like Anna, for instance) they build rapport with those they are watching, becoming sometimes very good friends with their targets and intended prey. They then use that emotional, trust connection, to manipulate the actions of the “groups” they surveil. Isnt that the cause for the term agent provacateur?


R396517
3 months ago
charlie

Yeah… Darby was a provocateur if what McKay said was true.

But he was talking to the courts.

When’s the last time you were honest to the courts?

I know I lie my ass off when I know I can get away with it.


R396518
3 months ago
alreadydead

darby is not an isolated case. go to the website green is the new red and do some reading about green scare.


R396519
3 months ago
charlie

.....If you’re talking to me alreadydead then i’m pretty much insulted that you’d assume I haven’t read about the Green Scare already considering it’s like…. 4 or 5 years into it already?

And as a matter of fact…. I personally met Anna.

Pimply faced bitch (granted, it was humid outside so her skin may not take well to that). Still.. I met her, and when everything went down with her I was quick to communicate with my comrades, as well as did some “reading” about it online.


R396520
3 months ago
ShiftShapers

but if the group is peaceful, why infiltrate it?

ask the fucking FBI. they infiltrate vegan potlucks and peace groups that consist of Quaker grandmothers. you need to read up on this shit before you speak about what you do not know and end up sounding ignorant.

When’s the last time you were honest to the courts?

fair enough, though i believe his testimony on this point.

i was trying to find that clip on YouTube of George Carlin talking about the absurdity of swearing the oath on the bible in court, and how much of a hollow, meaningless gesture it is. but alas, i couldn’t find it. fail.


R396521
3 months ago
alreadydead

sorry, didnt mean to insult at all. Of course responsibility rests on the shoulders of the one who actually made the molotovs, but that doesnt make the manipulation by informant any less disgusting. It could well have been a complete fabrication but it seems like a running trend among informants to try to coax those duped into trusting them to commit acts of destruction. And the only reason i bothered to mention it is to shed light on these peoplenot as guardians of “security” or whatever the fuck, but planted agents working to both discredit these type of groups in the public eye, and incarcerate them away from society


R396522
3 months ago
charlie

My main problem with him stating that he wouldn’t have done it unless he was coerced into doing it is that, well, I guess I like to think as anarqusitas that we have a mind of our own. That is what makes it so hard for me to believe, not so much his statement to the courts. although I do believe that because it was said to the courts that it has no grounds as he his an anarchist, so I would except him to give the same respect to the courts as I would. Also the fact that his statement was an attempt to keep him out of jail, or give a lighter sentence. I guess I’ve been tied up in the courts for too many reasons and am jaded, but I’m pretty sure all us criminals lie, especially to the courts.

Don’t you agree shift? Or do you think we’re just as feeble as the rest of them? lol


R396523
3 months ago
charlie

My main problem with him stating that he wouldn’t have done it unless he was coerced into doing it is that, well, I guess I like to think as anarqusitas that we have a mind of our own. That is what makes it so hard for me to believe, not so much his statement to the courts. although I do believe that because it was said to the courts that it has no grounds as he his an anarchist, so I would except him to give the same respect to the courts as I would. Also the fact that his statement was an attempt to keep him out of jail, or give a lighter sentence. I guess I’ve been tied up in the courts for too many reasons and am jaded, but I’m pretty sure all us criminals lie, especially to the courts.

Don’t you agree shift? Or do you think we’re just as feeble as the rest of them? lol


R396524
3 months ago
floopin

ha ha

Post Modified: 08/28/09 20:59:28

R396526
3 months ago
antiguanoctane

bored? or boring?


R396527
3 months ago
ShiftShapers

oh shut the fuck up already, floopin. you’re a joke. a bad, distasteful, and ultimately unfunny one at that. if you’re going to be a troll, at least be a decent one. you just fail.

no, charlie, i do agree. doesn’t mean we shouldn’t back him up on his assertion of innocence, even if we’re doing it in the knowledge that we all deceive the State as a matter of principle.

Post Modified: 08/28/09 17:42:49

R396528
3 months ago
alreadydead

shut the fuck up?
...


R396531
3 months ago
floopin

arses

Post Modified: 08/28/09 20:59:45

R396532
3 months ago
SunTzu

When McKay testified in his own defense, he claimed Darby entrapped him. He told jurors that had it not been for Darby’s urgings, he never would have built the Molotov cocktails.

hmmm .. . . . .

had it not been for Darby’s urgings, he never would have built the Molotov cocktails.

Now who the hell does THAT remind me of? Damn, can’t remember it at the moment but I’m sure it’ll come to me at some point.

Dammnit there’s someone around here that behaves exactly like that, constantly posting images of so–called ‘anarchist’ violence and blathers on about how great the so–called ‘Black Bloc’ are.

Who the hell is it? Can’t remember his name just now.

Do YOU know, Shifty?

What with YOU being here, like, ALL THE FUCKING TIME, maybe YOU could help me out here . . . .

Post Modified: 08/28/09 18:25:36

R396534
3 months ago
SunTzu

The guy I’m talking about has CSS’d his GNN account at one time or another with graphics of Bullets, AK’s and Molotov throwers, trying to make himself out to be a real HardCore Anarcho hard ass.

It’s like he’s trying waaaaaaaay to hard.

Got be a joke or else a pig plant.

Wish I could remember who it is.

Is there anyone reading this that could help me remember which particular GNNer acts like this?

Does my description of the guy ring any bells with anyone here??


R396535
3 months ago
ShiftShapers

and if you knew anything about the history of agent provocateurs and COINTELPRO you would know that the two main effects the operations have is to cause provocation but then to also cause suspicion and accusation, so true militants are ostracized. we call what you are doing “bad-jacketing.” accusations and insinuations such as the ones you are making are the added benefit of COINTELPRO ops.

prerogative #1: provoke, incite, and escalate violence that is not well thought out or planned out and risks significant harm to life.

prerogative #2: instill suspicion, accusation, and infighting.

you, my friend, are a (willing?) victiom of agent provocateur prerogative #2.


R396536
3 months ago
SunTzu

we call what you are doing “bad-jacketing.”

who’s ‘WE’?

you and the boys back at HQ?

Post Modified: 08/28/09 18:33:43

R396537
3 months ago
SunTzu

I’m sorry if my pointing out that YOU behave exactly like this guy Brandon Darby upsets you.

But if YOU didn’t behave exactly like Brandon Darby, then I wouldn’t have had the opportunity to point it out, now would I?


R396538
3 months ago
SunTzu

prerogative #1: provoke, incite, and escalate violence that is not well thought out or planned out and risks significant harm to life.

Fits YOU to a fucking T, Shifty, boy.

Don’t it?

No sense bitchin about me pointing the finger, Shity,

YOU’re the one that broached the subject in the first place.

Post Modified: 08/28/09 18:37:43

R396539
3 months ago
ShiftShapers

who’s ‘WE’?

the resistance, motherfucker

Fits YOU to a fucking T, Shifty, boy.

no, i advocate the right of armed resistance as well as the thoughtful, well-planned targeting of inherently violent infrastructure and private property (as distinguished from personal possessions) in a way that avoids harm to life, human and non-human alike, and is in fact intended to stop violence.

how dense and shallow you are capable of being simultaneously is amazing.


R396540
3 months ago
SunTzu

yes, dear.

Nothin dense and shallow bout dem der bullet, AK and Molotov graphics, now IS there?

Oh noes


R396541
3 months ago
ShiftShapers

that said, molotov cocktails will forever remain a weapon of the resistance. long live the molotov cocktail!

my point being that the other side of COINTELPRO activity is to instill suspicion and effectively deem anyone who would advocate the use of a molotov cocktail as a suspected agent provocateur, thus subverting true militant potential. if you cannot see this truth you are blind.


R396542
3 months ago
ShiftShapers

but obviously you can’t see it, because it’s exactly what you’re doing, right now. or maybe you do realize it, and you’re doing it intentionally.


R396543
3 months ago
SunTzu

in a way that avoids harm to life, human and non-human alike, and is in fact intended to stop violence.

that’s an out and out lie, Shity.

YOU constantly glorify violence.

YOU constantly post riot pics with faceoffs against pigs.

Facing off against the pigs most definitely has grave potential to be harmful to life.


R396544
3 months ago
SunTzu

Oh yes I am most definitely intentionally pointing the finger at YOU, Shifty.

Most F’n definitely.

Make no mistake about it.

I AM pointing at YOU very intentionally


R396545
3 months ago
FloydAnderson

I took this photo months ago walking past a dumpster in Austin. I just searched around on my computer and found it.


R396546
3 months ago
ShiftShapers

Facing off against the pigs most definitely has grave potential to be harmful to life.

risking harm to self is an entirely different question. ¡Ian Tomlinson Presente!


R396547
3 months ago
SunTzu

Your last two replies sound like you’re pretty desperately trying to project your so called ‘street cred’

that said, molotov cocktails will forever remain a weapon of the resistance. long live the molotov cocktail!

what are ya, F’n 12?


R396548
3 months ago
ShiftShapers

what are ya, F’n 12?

i will be in three months. so what?

Post Modified: 08/28/09 18:50:17

R396549
3 months ago
ShiftShapers

Your last two replies sound like you’re…

nah those posts were actually pointing out how your posts reflect how obviously know jack shit about the history of infiltration and cointelpro ops, and your posts in fact play directly into their hands. way to go, wanker.

Post Modified: 08/28/09 18:54:13

R396550
3 months ago
SunTzu

risking harm to self is an entirely different question. ¡Ian Tomlinson Presente!

what a wanker

All Ian Tomlinson did was get drunk and try to annoy some cops. I have some pity for him but what he did was silly given that he had to know that pigs are pigs. He’s no working class hero.

Your referencing his name is pathetic.


R396551
3 months ago
ShiftShapers

All Ian Tomlinson did was get drunk and try to annoy some cops.

all he did was walk down the fucking street.

He’s no working class hero.

no he is a victim of police murder and state terrorism.

Your referencing his name is pathetic.

¡Ian Tomlinson Presente!


R396552
3 months ago
SunTzu

nah those points were actually pointing out how you obviously know jack shit about the history of infiltration and cointelpro ops. way to go.

What I do KNOW is that with your bullet, Ak and Molotov graphics and with your completely pathetic fake Spanish Civil War era anarchistic rhetoric (¡Ian Tomlinson Presente!, FFS ya moron) all you’re doing is reinforcing the notion that you’re a pathetic Fake anarchist.

You’re a joke Shifty. Completely 2 dimensional.


R396553
3 months ago
FloydAnderson

wow, and all you had to do was read my posts on gnn and you would have known exactly who that picture on the poster was of. how weird.

^Whoops, here’s the comment Shifty just edited at comment R396548 above.

You are so fucking hateful Shift.

I had heard of this guy when I took this photo you gnarly weirdo.


R396555
3 months ago
SunTzu

Simply increasing the font size just increases how pathetic you look, desperately grasping for something, ANYTHING to help you seem anything other than completely 2 dimensional.


R396556
3 months ago
ShiftShapers

first i edited it to say:

whoops sorry thought Floyd’s post was from Sun.

but then changed it so it was just something continuing with the back and forth banter.

but whatever.

oh and sun, you should know that the ¡Presente! declarations for lost compaƱer@s is also a tradition in Latin America and here in the Southwest.


R396557
3 months ago
SunTzu

much as you’d like to deflect the conversation away from the fact that you look like a nark pretending to be an anarchist, this conversation ain’t about Ian Tomlinson or how or why he died.

It’s about the FACT that YOU behave exactly like Brandon Darby

Post Modified: 08/28/09 19:01:17

R396558
3 months ago
ShiftShapers

Simply increasing the font size just increases how pathetic you look, desperately grasping for something, ANYTHING to help you

ehh, you did it too, genius


R396559
3 months ago
ShiftShapers

much as you’d like to deflect the conversation away from the fact that you look like a nark pretending to be an anarchist

bullshit. as i’ve made clear repeatedly in this thread, you apparently know nothing about the nature COINTELPRO activities and in fact play into their game though bad-jacketing militants and revolutionaries who dare to advocate the use of armed revolt and thus effectively marginalizing them and rendering them suspect. what you are doing is a clear and undeniable part of COINTELPRO operations themselves. the agents themselves used to (and probably still do) go as far as falsifying phone calls, emails, letters, etc., and accusing good people of being agents is one of the oldest tricks in their book.

It’s about the FACT that YOU behave exactly like Brandon Darby

you clearly know nothing about the behavior of Brandon Darby, and clearly nothing about the behavior of informants and agent provocateurs in general.

Post Modified: 08/28/09 19:06:06

R396560
3 months ago
SunTzu

Shity, I don’t wave the names of dead guys around to try and give me some street cred.


R396561
3 months ago
FloydAnderson

but then changed it so it was just something continuing with the back and forth banter.

Oh OK ShapeShifter


R396563
3 months ago
ShiftShapers

I don’t wave the names of dead guys around to try and give me some street cred.

i don’t sit on the internet if i want to try and get some street cred. i hit the streets. wanker.


R396564
3 months ago
SunTzu

you know nothing about the behavior of Brandon Darby, and clearly nothing about the behavior of informants and agent provocateurs in general.

But I DO know about YOUR behaviour here Shity.

Fits the description of ‘agent provoceteur’ to an F’n T,


R396565
3 months ago
ShiftShapers

But I DO know about YOUR behaviour here Shity. Fits the description of ‘agent provoceteur’ to an F’n T,

only if you get your description from Alex Jones instead of the factual history of COINTELPRO and other government infiltration and provocation of revolutionary groups.

and only by ignoring the fact that by accusing anyone who advocates militant armed resistance of being an agent provocateur, you are in fact doing exactly what the real agent provocateurs want you to do: marginalize true militant revolutionaries by rendering them suspect.

Post Modified: 08/28/09 19:13:59

R396566
3 months ago
ShiftShapers


R396569
3 months ago
SunTzu

i don’t sit on the internet if i want to try and get some street cred. i hit the streets. wanker.

oh the LULZ.
In order to post the amount of shit you post here, you would have to sit on the computer for F’n HOURS, Shity.

All one has to do is look at the amount of crap you post here. That takes LOTS of time to find, post and format. LOTS of time, Shity.

Then look at the type of crap you post.

Pure agent provoceteur material.

Pure agent provocateur behaviour


R396570
3 months ago
SunTzu

Posting Bullet, AK and molotov graphic does not make you at ‘true revolutionary’, Shity.

It just makes you look like the 2 dimensional ‘agent provocateur’ you so obviously are


R396571
3 months ago
ShiftShapers

Pure agent provoceteur material.
Pure agent provocateur behaviour

heh. again you prove your ignorance of agent provocateur behavior. again i suggest you read up before you speak up.


R396572
3 months ago
FloydAnderson

that said, molotov cocktails will forever remain a weapon of the resistance. long live the molotov cocktail!

You really are an obvious promoter of violence and destruction ShapeShifters.

I can’t remember much evidence of you actually taking action either, except for that anarchist zombie march on Halloween that you filmed.


R396573
3 months ago
ShiftShapers

Posting Bullet, AK and molotov graphic does not make you at ‘true revolutionary’, Shity.

never said it did. it’s just imagery.

It just makes you look like the 2 dimensional ‘agent provocateur’ you so obviously are

heh. keep it up. bad-jacketing is very becoming of you.


R396574
3 months ago
FloydAnderson

Being an agent provocateur seems stressful and not very rewarding.


R396576
3 months ago
SunTzu

only if you get your description from Alex Jones

Shifty, only complete morons think that a disparaging reference to Alex Jones is some sort of argument winner

But I guess if you’re desperately straw clasping in order to try and maintain rapidly diminishing street cred, any thing will do, even a disparaging ref to Alex Jones, eh Shity?


R396579
3 months ago
SunTzu

it’s just imagery.

nothing is ‘just imagery’, as you well know.


R396580
3 months ago
ShiftShapers

You really are an obvious promoter of violence and destruction ShapeShifters.

sure. i promote the destruction of inherently violent private property (as distinguished from personal possessions) and infrastructure and the use of violence to stop oppression (for a very basic example, a woman using a blade or a gat to ward off a rapist attacker, or for a more broad example, a people using arms to rise up against a system that is systematically destroying their land base).

I can’t remember much evidence of you actually taking action either, except for that anarchist zombie march on Halloween that you filmed.

oh please, that was hardly “taking action.” more like drunken revelry. i removed my film from youtube when i was going to trial and the judge told me it was incriminating (a useless gesture on my part, as they had already burned a copy to disk, devious bastards that they are). but there is at least one other vid up from that night on youtube and the local paper still has one on their site somewhere. still, that was a party action, not a political action. we were just having fun. fun liberation front!

security culture issues aside, i have posted some material about my own activities, but not a lot. but i don’t post local stuff i do on gnn, because we don’t have a big audience here from my town. sometimes i post stuff, but not usually. if you want local shit i posted on gnn go here, here, here, here, here, here, here, and here for a few examples. i’d say for more info on my local activities, go here, here *, here *, here *, and here for a few examples.

but if you’re going to include my filming in “taking action” you might as well include my documentation of the DNC in Denver for Stim & subMedia.

Post Modified: 08/28/09 19:38:57

R396581
3 months ago
ShiftShapers

Being an agent provocateur seems stressful and not very rewarding.

joining the Bad-Jacket Brigade too now, are we? oh wait, you founded the fucking club. nah nevermind that was neverknwo.


R396582
3 months ago
SunTzu

the mere fact that you are trying to brush it off, with the glib phrase ‘just imagery’, is VERY telling.


R396583
3 months ago
sisyphus

YOU behave exactly like Brandon Darby”

yeah, exactly like him. shifty recently incited me to violence and ratted me out to the FBI.


R396584
3 months ago
ShiftShapers

so i like pictures of guns and fire and shit. so the fuck what? the only thing it is telling of is just that. i like it. if you don’t, then piss off, but enough with the bad-jacketing. you’re making yourself look like exactly what you’re accusing me of being.


R396585
3 months ago
sisyphus

you use language carelessly, which makes Strunk and White sad


R396586
3 months ago
ShiftShapers

there, now i’ve joined the fucking club too


R396587
3 months ago
SunTzu

a woman using a blade or a gat to ward off a rapist attacker

First he was waving around dead guys names as some sort of voodoo charm to ward off the obvious implications of his behaviour, now he’s trying to wrap himself in “just about to be raped women” in order to justify is obvious agent provocateuer behaviour.

Well done Shity

A new low, even for YOU


R396588
3 months ago
SunTzu

my router keeps crashing since I started this conversation.

7 times in the last 10 mins, Shity

Luckily for me all I have to do is restart it and I get a new IP.


R396589
3 months ago
FloydAnderson

I’m sure this image was coming, so let’s just get it out of the way


R396590
3 months ago
SunTzu

me pointing out your obvious agent provocateur behaviour must be really getting to you, or someone around here, Shity, eh?


R396591
3 months ago
SunTzu

so i like pictures of guns and fire and shit. so the fuck what? the only thing it is telling of is just that. i like it.

suuuuuuuuure it is. Yep. Just cos ya like it, eh?

Sounds reeeeeeeaaaaaal plausible, that does.

Oh yes


R396592
3 months ago
ShiftShapers

oh come on Floyd, the least you could have done was make it clickable like i do. fail.

me pointing out your obvious agent provocateur behaviour must be really getting to you, or someone around here, Shity, eh?

nah, like i said, all it’s doing is proving how little you know of agent provocateur behavior. again i suggest you read up before you speak up. you obviously throw the term around loosely and are not familiar with the factual history of provocateur behavior.

i suggest you read a fucking book.


R396593
3 months ago
ShiftShapers

again, bad-jacketing, which is precisely what you have been doing throughout this thread, is the bread and butter of the art of being an agent provocateur. getting others to do it for you is even better. now that is a psychological operation!


R396594
3 months ago
SunTzu

And as I already told ya, Shity, I know exactly what it looks like. I’ve been watching YOU for long enough to be able to recognise it easy enough now.

I suggest you fuck yourself, pig


R396595
3 months ago
SunTzu

Interstingly enough, my router hasn’t crashed since I pointed out the ease with which I aquire a new IP


R396596
3 months ago
ShiftShapers

I know exactly what it looks like.

obviously not.

I suggest you fuck yourself, pig

keep on playin’ into the intentions of the real pigs, Sun.

you do their job for them.


R396597
3 months ago
FloydAnderson

nah, like i said, all it’s doing is proving how little you know of agent provocateur behavior. again i suggest you read up before you speak up. you obviously throw the term around loosely and are not familiar with the factual history of provocateur behavior.

Agent provocateurs promote and instigate violence.
ShiftShapers promotes and instigates violence.

No need to read books to see that.


R396598
3 months ago
SunTzu

I don’t need anyone else to do anything for me Shity.

I’m well capable of pointing you out to be an obvious agent provocateur all by myself.

the fact that others here seem to have noticed what you are, is nothing to do with me, Shity


R396599
3 months ago
FloydAnderson

R396600
3 months ago
ShiftShapers

Agent provocateurs promote and instigate violence.
ShiftShapers promotes and instigates violence.

shallow, Alex Jone-ish thinking. c’mon Floyd, you can do better than that.

if you would just read a fucking book you would understand the distinction that, as i said before, the intent of an agent provocateur is to provoke, incite, and escalate violence that is not well thought out or planned out and risks significant harm to life. there are two intents of this (intents which the feds document in their own papers, the infamous “COINTELPRO Papers”). the first is to justify crackdowns, which is the part AJ and his ilk grasp yet cannot move beyond, but the second is to render any true militants advocating armed insurrection suspect. i don’t know how many times i have to repeat this, but regardless of how many times you choose to ignore it, it remains a known and documented fact straight from the COINTELPRO Papers. they acknowledge the existence of true revolutionary militants who advocated the intelligent, aimed, and intentful use of armed insurrection that most importantly avoided inflicting harm to living things while inflicting significant damage to the machinery of war and exploitation. the feds, in their own internal documents, recognize the fact that these militants represent a true revolutionary threat to the status quo, and they also admitted, in the same internal documents, that the second benefit of escalating ill-planned actions leading to harm to life was that they could simultaneously justify crackdowns and marginalize and ostracize the true revolutionary elements by rendering them suspect of being provocateurs themselves. this is why bad-jacketing militants for taking militant stances, using militant imagery, and advocating militant dissent is playing right into their hands. if you are unwilling to listen to what we learned from the internal documents that were stolen by the resistance from the FBI themselves (the “COINTELPRO Papers”) then i just don’t know what the fuck to tell you.

on edit: “read a fucking book”? who am i kidding? i would be surprised if you even read that entire paragraph.

Post Modified: 08/28/09 20:00:32

R396601
3 months ago
ShiftShapers

I’m well capable of pointing you out to be an obvious agent provocateur all by myself.

nah, all you’re capable of doing is proving that you’re a complete wanker and have no idea what the fuck you’re talking about. that’s why it’s funny, and entertaining.

GNN Flashback

like i said, that’s the image Anthony sent me. “fake”?

it turns out he doesn’t seem to have, at least has not proven he has, any of the video he says he got of the DNC protests

what about my previous statement on the matter did you fail to understand? i handed the discs over to Stimulator daily, who was at Denver Open Media, and the discs were left in Denver after the DNC to be utilized by the ongoing legal defense. i do not expect them to be returned to me nor do i want them to be. they are in good hands, right where they should be: with the legal team.

Post Modified: 08/28/09 20:03:10

R396602
3 months ago
FloydAnderson

The 1-year anniversary of me filming this video is two days away.

Shit, let’s check it out again for some good ole GNN memories

Post Modified: 08/28/09 20:03:09

R396603
3 months ago
ShiftShapers

yuck, i hate that picture.


R396604
3 months ago
ShiftShapers

btw i never used the press pass Anthony sent me. i printed one out with the intent of getting it laminated but never got to it.


R396605
3 months ago
ShiftShapers

and it was weak he had just used some generic template (which i was unaware of until you “exposed” it, or whatever). had i known that, i would have just fabricated my own, and it would have looked a lot cooler.

the ones indymedia had at the DNC were sweet, but i never took the time to go get one, nor did i need to, nor would it have made a difference. those are mostly for fun.

Post Modified: 08/28/09 20:12:29

R396607
3 months ago
ShiftShapers

it’s a lot like this one.


R396609
3 months ago
ShiftShapers

hahaha Floyd! i just found that shit HOW FUNNY!


R396610
3 months ago
ShiftShapers

wow i should totally sue you. LOL!


R396611
3 months ago
ShiftShapers

i found that shit just google image searching “indymedia press pass”

heh. weird.


R396612
3 months ago
ShiftShapers

from that link:

no evidence of all the video he says he shot.

yeah except that Stim credited me for it on ITEOTWAWKI, genius.

Post Modified: 08/28/09 20:21:20

R396613
3 months ago
ShiftShapers

i like yours better:

oh i mean Liv’s. sorry.

Post Modified: 08/28/09 20:20:50

R396614
3 months ago
FloydAnderson

wow i should totally sue you. LOL!

Sue me for what exactly?


R396615
3 months ago
ShiftShapers

i was just kidding. but public defamation, or slander, or something.

but i don’t believe in suing, or the system it’s built on. remember?


R396616
3 months ago
FloydAnderson

you’re a fucking joke


R396617
3 months ago
ShiftShapers

you’re one to talk


R396619
3 months ago
SunTzu

My router STILL hasn’t crashed since I INFORMED you all I need to do is restart to get a new IP. Funny how that worked out.

laugh it off pigboy, you GO Girl!!!

Post Modified: 08/28/09 20:45:55

R396620
3 months ago
ShiftShapers

oh you are such a DICK!

LOL!



R396621
3 months ago
ShiftShapers

i’m totally using that for my profile photo…


R396622
3 months ago
ShiftShapers

ha! that looks AWESOME! thanks!


R396623
3 months ago
ShiftShapers

wait wait wait… look at my blog now… where it says “Occupation”

LOLZ!!!!


R396624
3 months ago
SunTzu

We aim to please

Post Modified: 08/28/09 20:45:26

R396625
3 months ago
FloydAnderson

oh dear. lolz!!


R396626
3 months ago
ShiftShapers

heh floyd. he got me good didn’t he? the fucker! i like ‘im!


R396629
3 months ago
FloydAnderson

I’m laughing my ass off!!


R396631
3 months ago
ShiftShapers

you see. this is why gnn is the shit. where else would this sort of shit fly? HEH!


R396641
3 months ago
ShiftShapers

make a joke of it though i might, i would like to state that i feel SunTzu’s falsified image is a death threat against me as well as a general threat to my safety. considering the viral nature of the internet, such false accusations should not be taken lightly.


R396642
3 months ago
SunTzu

This is what happened after I started to annoy Shity.

Click to enlarge.

For anyone interested, the IP number 69.24.209.21:80 resolves to . . . . GNN.tv

And immediately after I posted the ‘Shifty is an Informer” Pic my router crashed again. Curious timing

What was that you were saying earlier about getting others to do your dirty work, Shity?


R396643
3 months ago
ShiftShapers

yeah i have a team of fbi hackers backing me up, Sun. jesus, you are really reaching now.


R396645
3 months ago
SunTzu

i would like to state that i feel SunTzu’s falsified image is a death threat against me as well as a general threat to my safety.

didn’t seem to bother ya when someone else was the target, though Pigboy, did it?

Next you’ll be claiming I’m trying to drive you into the sea!!!!!1111!!!!!!11111

Go fuck yourself, PigBoy


R396648
3 months ago
SunTzu

yeah i have a team of fbi hackers backing me up, Sun. jesus, you are really reaching now.

No my guess is that someone with access to GNN logs is INFORMing you and others of my IP, PigBoy.


R396649
3 months ago
SunTzu

What was that you were saying earlier about getting others to do your dirty work, Shity?


R396650
3 months ago
SaryshaganTiger

look at the fucking pig squirming and trying to be friendly now.

Fuck you, rat-boy, you make me hurl.


R396651
3 months ago
SaryshaganTiger

Come on shitsmearer, make me have to reboot and get a new IP too.


R396652
3 months ago
SunTzu

Shity briefly used my pic as his Avatar and then decided to change it after he decided he wanted to try and gain sympathy by falsely claiming that he felt ‘threatened’

If one truly felt “threatened” would one use the Pic for an avatar? I don’t think so

Clearly the guy cannot be trusted if he goes around making false statements about feeling “threatened,” now can he?


R396653
3 months ago
SunTzu

don’t even have to reboot, just have to press the on/off switch on the router, wait 15 secs, and then press it again and wait a further 15/20 secs.

Worth it to annoy Shity, the INFORMER


R396654
3 months ago
SunTzu

It has crashed 3 times since I posted the pic showing the stealth attempt from , the IP number 69.24.209.21:80 ….. which resolves to . . . . GNN.tv


R396655
3 months ago
FloydAnderson

Yeah I think ShiftShapers softened up for a few minutes there and was getting goofy. but now he’s back to being an asshole and living a lie.


R396656
3 months ago
SunTzu

make a joke of it though i might, i

but you DID make a joke of it, Shity.

THEN you realised you could use it to claim you felt “threatened”

fuck off and grow a pair ya spineless fuck


R396659
3 months ago
SunTzu

Here’s what Shity wrote as the very first post on page one in this very thread:

FUCK YOU, Brandon Darby! . . . .death is too good for you.

and now, after I posted an obviously photoshopped image, the sad-pathetic-whiney-“I is a VICTUM, I tells ya, I feels teh threatened!!!!”-Fake-Anarchist-Hardman-creep posts:

make a joke of it though i might, i would like to state that i feel SunTzu’s falsified image is a death threat against me as well as a general threat to my safety.

what a spineless whining fucktard you are Shity.

Shut the Fuck up, pigboy, and crawl back under what ever fucking rock you crawled out from

Post Modified: 08/28/09 21:56:12

R396694
3 months ago
charlie

DAMN! has all this been going on since I left? No wonder the founders left.

I’m out of here….

OFF THE COMPS YOU FUCKS! Into the streets underground!
(except for you cop fucks, you stay, until we come up behind you and splatter your brains all over your screens. you know who you are, that’s all that matters, cause we’re coming to get you)

Idiots.

Post Modified: 08/29/09 00:09:32

R396699
3 months ago
ShiftShapers

No wonder the founders left.

word. unfortunately, that is the intent of this sort of activity.


R396702
3 months ago
SaryshaganTiger

lol, fuck you narc.
who gives a shit about those fonzie-lookalike poofters.

the reasons why everyone else left are far more interesting.

Post Modified: 08/29/09 01:42:29

R396738
3 months ago
ShiftShapers

fuck you narc.

making claims without evidence again now, are we? jumping on the bad-jacked bandwagon are we? surprise surprise.

for YOU, you bad-jacketing, false-accusing troll

if anyone is suspect, it’s those who run around pointing fingers at others


R396789
3 months ago
W089MuttaFickas

jesus christ, im stumped.

your all fuckin COPS!

(im kidding!)


R405404
2 weeks ago
ShiftShapers

great news: she was aquitted

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